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By Don Aitkin, published 9/2/2016Has Climate Science become hopelessly bogged down? Has Climate Science reached a point where misbehaving programs [paradigms] are using 99% of research efforts and thus draining away – frittering away – the field’s resources?
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Posted by popnperish, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 10:16:21 AM
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Why indeed? And given all maths and equations were settled hundreds of years ago, why do we need any more mathematicians?
The only thing we have far too much of,is largely useless and vastly more costly politicians. And were we able to rationalize this area of endless squabbling, by removing an entirely unnecessary and counterproductive tier, we could pocket around 70 billions PA! But no, that would impact on too many mates and colleagues, better to get rid of the minds that are working on something actually useful, namely how to ameliorate against climate change, or failing that what's needed to adapt! And given what has transpired, tantamount to the burning of scientific books by the (if you don't like the science)Nazis? Are all right wing conservatives so fundamentally obtuse? Maybe so, otherwise they'd join more progressive entities? Incidentally, the sun has been in wane mode (cooling) since the mid seventies !(NASA) Meaning, the science is anything but settled? Rhrosty. Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 10:28:48 AM
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if anyone can't see how ridiculous arrogant man's failed predictions have been in regards to climate change over the last 50 years you are very naive or just plain ignorant. Imagine the billions wasted was spent on picking up rubbish, cleaning oceans and other useful pursuits. Instead because some arrogant charlotans say the 'science'is settled we have groups like getup and other young naive people falling for it. Still I suppose millions are still cashing in on it as it is the biggest 'morale challenge'of the century. Make up issues so you don't have to deal with real ones.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 10:31:19 AM
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Sorry runner, what "failed projections"? I've been following the issue for three decades now and what they projected were more extreme weather events, higher temperatures and rising sea-levels. We seem to have all three. Or did you miss the news that 2015 was the warmest year on record? Did you not read about the British floods two years ago and again this year? Or Superstorm Sandy?
Posted by popnperish, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 11:08:36 AM
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This is just wonderful. Telling them "Your job is done little man go home and rest". What a laugh now they will have to earn a proper living.
This nonsense will still go on in a lot of other places but Australia with this gold medal effort has shown the way! Lots of other cash strapped countries will say thanks boys and girls and you shut the door on your way out. Extreme weather has always been with us and as for last year being the hottest ever? They have said that every year for the last ten years. You blokes have had a serious and wonderful pay day but it is over. In the immortal words of PM Keating "Get a job!" Posted by JBowyer, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 11:43:24 AM
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popnperish
You must indeed being seeing the projections through rose colored glasses. Go back and look at the last IPCC report. It points out that there is no storm trend - or its weak (I forget the exact words). You will find that what you think of as a trend is a trend in storm damage and the result of development along the coast, not changes in storm intensity. As for rising sea levels where does this bilge come from? If you look at http://sealevel.colorado.edu/ where they track sea levels by satellite, you will see that the increase has been a steady 3.2 mm a year since the early 90s. Over a full century this works out to an unexciting foot (one third of a metre about). Global warming projections have been uniformly useless over the short term and this is now widely acknowledged. Posted by Curmudgeon, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 12:26:39 PM
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You can't do the adaptation without the underpinning climate research. Peter Stott of the UK's Met Office was interviewed on ABC's "The World Today" yesterday. Simon Lauder asked:
"The CSIRO says its changes to its employment arrangements are to change the focus from monitoring climate change to adaption instead. Doesn't there come a time when that is what should happen?"
To which Stott replied: "You need to do both. Now this is an international effort on the underpinning science and Australia have been taking a leading role in that international effort.
But you absolutely need to do both, you need to continue to do the underpinning science and then you need to continue to work to inform people and answer peoples questions based on those underpinning science, but applying it to their questions."