Watch how all the social apoligists are coming out of the woodwork defending 30yrs of unplanned,politically correct immigration policies in France.So the the native French are the to blame ,they are the racists who couldn't afford more social security so many of these people could run their criminal activities.

The French opened their hearts and country to an ignorant,ungreatful race that either didn't want to work or have the skills and intelligence to make a living in an once affluent country.Had many of these people stayed in Africa they would have either starved or lived at a subsistance level,and look how greatful they are.Africa probably can develop and prosper,but it may take hundreds of years of evolution for it to happen as it did in Europe.Help them in their own country.

As I've said previously if the French had invited the Chinese there,they would be now complaining that the Chinese are running all of their businesses.There would be no civil war,just the happy hum of prosperity.

What the left don't like is that their ideals which they gleefully rammed down our throats all these years under the cloak of political correctness are fately flawed.A happy and productive civilisation does not materalise out of feel good assumptions that all races are equal in every respect.

If you want to know how good a horse is,look at it's track record and place your bet accordingly.

"It also neglected to mention that the Australian Senate’s 2004 inquiry into poverty concluded the number of Australians living in poverty ranged from 2 to 3.5 million, that is, ten to 17.5 per cent of the population, depending on which measure was used. That is, these two model “growth economies”, Australia and the US, have poverty rates that are higher than France’s official unemployment rate."

Unfortunately, this is not suprising. Australia has massive socio-economic problems which are being largely ignored by complacent politicians and journalists. GNP growth rates are not a reflection of living standards. Look at the U.K. for example. It has one of the strongest "growth economies" in Western Europe. However, in terms of national living standards, it was ranked 29th - the lowest of the pre-expansion EU nations. Researchers said although the U.K. achieved high income per capita, it had high levels of social and family breakdown.

In conclusion, I'm glad somebody decided to remind these smug, insular journos not to throw stones, especially when Australia is hardly a shining example of socio-economic success. I'd much rather be unemployed in France or Germany than underemployed in Australia.

Oligarch/Bronwyn

And the point of your last post is…..?

Let me suggest that the riots of self justifying young thugs in particular ethnic groups occur regardless of statistical measures of poverty and unemployment.

Are you arguing that once Australia mimics France’s poverty/unemployment levels we too can experience the joys of widespread ethnic violence?

Can’t you see that you are providing an excellent argument for limiting emigration from undeveloped (Muslim) countries.

You appear to have gotten up peoples noses rather than made them more sympathetic to the Franco-African lads who fire bomb.

I trust that the next time you visit the salons of Paris you do not walk in some areas wearing a dress. I understand certain Muslim lads (and it appears their fathers) do not tolerate dresses. Reading this Reuters News article http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-11-11T020855Z_01_WRI062341_RTRUKOT_0_TEXT0.xml&related=true if you were cheeky enough to actually wear a dress in some areas of Muslim France you would be "asking for it"...yes to be raped.

Hopefully our own Lebanese areas aren’t going that way – or would you be sympathetic to those lads as well Bronwyn?

If such lads turn their talents to terrorism I'm becoming less convinced that attaching tracking tags to them is a bad thing.

To Mr Oligarch.

As a former member of the "disadvantaged class" and a former Housing Commission tennant from a block of 84 home units, I can tell you with absolute conviction that poverty and criminality is primarily a measure of low intelligence.

(waiting for laughter to subside.)

That does not mean that there are no smart people in the disadvantaged class. But these people are usually poor through misfortune and they are usually upwardly mobile. Nor does it mean that all people in the upper and middle classes are smart. Being born into priveleged households can be detrimental to the development of an intellect that can understand cause and effect. There are plenty of "upper class twits" about today, and they all seem to be pushing multiculturalism, republicanism, reconciliation and refugees.

Poor dumb people breed much faster than smart people. So trying to control poverty is always going to be a problem. (although education can make people smarter) But for the last thirty years, Australia has been busily importing poverty just to make things worse. When I was a kid there were 1 million people like myself living in poverty and after thirty years of rising prosperity there are now 3 million.

According the the Australian Institute of Criminology, crime is now costing Australia an incredible $32 billion dollars a year. That is $32 billion dollars siphoned off from our hospitals, schools, infrastructure and from scientific research. That ethnic criminal behaviour by half a dozen notorious ethnic groups is now almost out of control in Sydney, is a measure of how much the immigration of certain dumb, crime prone and welfare dependant ethnicities is costing this country.

It is ironic that those who complain the loudest about the lack of government funding for their pet causes are the ones most vocal in supporting an immigration program engineered to create financial catastrophe.

Redneck mentions crime costs us $32 billion a yr.This is $3,200.00 pa for every working person.Don't forget it is not just the cost of policing but the cost of insurance also.Crime has a downward spirralling effect.The more everyone else cheats,the more likely usually honest people have to cheat just to survive.If it not nipped in the bud we too,will have a French scenario.

Many in France are still in denial as are many our own social engineering do gooders.Our own Govt in NSW have ignored these problems,turned our police force into a whimpering simpering police service and hoped that by being weak and nice,the criminals would mend their ways.

The left will continue to defend the indefensible because simply they have been the root cause of many of these problems.Some of the lunatic left see terrorism as a way to overthrow the capitalist system through sheer anarchy.

France made one big mistake. It allowed in people who hate the West. Australia has done the same thing.

So, for those of you who feel more comfortable and safe blaming the French for Muslim rioting,remember: a version of the French experience is probably coming to a suburb near you.