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Australian media hypocrisy over French inferno : Comments

By Bronwyn Winter, published 11/11/2005

Bronwyn Winter argues the Australian press has used the French crisis to push a little local propaganda.

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I have rarely read such a rambling and almost incoherent rant from someone who is supposed to be a journalist. It is perfectly clear that Bronwyn Winter is absolutely mortified about predictable failure of multiculturalism in France and she is desperately looking for somebody other than her beloved Muslim minorities to blame for it.

Anything will do, the “inefficiency of French assimilationist policies", “social exclusion”, “social, cultural and economic neglect” and, of course, that well used and never fail chestnut, “racism.” She even has the gall to claim that France is not looking after it’s minorities “ well enough.”

Dear Bronwyn.

Multiculturalism has been a bloody disaster with every society that has ever been cursed with it. What makes you think that France, or even Australia, will be any different?

The importation of ever increasing numbers of crime prone and welfare dependent people from cultures who values are diametrically opposed to that of the host country, is absolutely guaranteed to create an unbridgeable social divide. This divide will increase as birth rate differentials and increased immigration cause the immigrant groups numbers to increase to a point where they become a political threat to the majority. The result is, and always has been, civil strife, race riots, demands for separatism and eventually, civil war.

I hold this truth to be self evident and it is as immutable as the Law of Gravity. No amount of dreamy idealism can alter it’s outcome one iota.

The problems in France were predictable and avoidable. France has now joined the ever lengthening list of strife torn countries that wishes it was a monocultural society that has strong social cohesion and no suicide bombers or riot happy minorities. As such, France is now a perfect object lesson for posterity.
Posted by redneck, Friday, 11 November 2005 8:40:56 PM
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Doesn't anybody get it?

Muslims hate christians. They were once a great empire, are very proud and still can't get over the fact that they're not.

Muslims hate the west because of their arrogant policies in the middle east (Israel, Palestine.) Can anyone blame them?

Muslims (in the Arab world) can't believe that with all their oil they are not a great empire, and are being walked over by the west (ie. once again: Israel/palestine).

Muslims are so fustrated that they have in recent years turned to their religious roots and muslim identity with such extreme dedication that they have been able to substitute plane hijackings with suicide bombers to get their message across to the arrogant west regarding once again, the Israel/palestine issue.

The West has then allowed all these angry fustrated proud muslims who have gone back to their tradtional roots into their countries thinking they are dying to embrace western culture and will assimilate.

That's it.

What Australia should do to avoid going the way of Europe?
Stop supporting Iraq.
Help the Middle east peace process towards the creation of a Palestinian state.
Place a moratorium on further immigration of muslims into Australia, or at least the fundamentalist muslims.
Kick out the ones who are making trouble.
Posted by minuet, Friday, 11 November 2005 8:59:18 PM
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Great post from someone who actually knows a lot about the situation in France, rather than just relying on newspaper reports with a high degree of spin. Take careful note of what Bronwyn has said and don't be so quick to shoot the messenger.
Posted by rossco, Friday, 11 November 2005 9:34:45 PM
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Not quite right, Minuet.

Muslims don’t just hate Christians, they hate everybody. Catholics, Prots, Orthodox, Hindus, Buddhists all get along with each other OK. But everybody has a problem with Muslims. Muslims think that Muslims are one thing and everybody else on the planet is something else. That might be termed “racism”. But you will never hear western “social progressives” complaining about Muslim racism any more than you will hear western feminists complaining about Muslim treatment of women. To people like Scooper9, Sneaky Peter and Mahatma Sitting Duck, anybody who hates the west is OK and beyond criticism.

Muslims hate the west because western civilisation is beating Islamic civilisation. They also hate us because of the Crusades, which most Muslims think happened just last week. Just like Nazi programming of the Hitler Youth, Muslim children have been indoctrinated to believe that the Crusades were manifestations of western aggression against Islam, instead of them being the western response to four hundred years of Muslim aggression against Christianity.

Muslims have returned to their religious roots because they are dumb. They know that Islam was once the pre eminent power in the world and they put that down entirely to Allah’s grace. These dummies think that the reason why they are failing is because they have become “westernised” which has offended Allah. Therefore, they way to become powerful again is to become totally Islamic again in order to get God’s grace again. That is why there are so many Islamic fundamentalist movements trying to turn back the clock to the 13th Century. Smart huh? That’s what comes from breeding with your cousins for too long.

As for the creation of a Palestinian state, well guess what Minuet? They have that already. And just like every other overpopulated Muslim cesspit it is economically kaput. Without wealthy Muslim societies funding Palestinian aggression against Israel, “Palestine” would be totally broke. So “Palestine” needs to keep the war simmering along. Stopping the war by recognising Israel’s right to exist would be like killing the Golden Goose.
Posted by redneck, Saturday, 12 November 2005 5:30:50 AM
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France isn't multicultural. If anything it is monocultural. It takes pride in its secularism (eg, banning of muslim headscarfs, jewish yamukas, christian crosses and other religious symbols in public schools) and it has no affirmative action policies. France does not recognise minorities as separate cultures. Government policies and so forth are forbidden from questioning the origins of people. Everyone who lives there must speak French and are assumed to become French. This may well pose a problem for certain groups of people.
Posted by SL, Saturday, 12 November 2005 6:56:29 AM
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This article is a joke. These pigs have been rioting in France rioting for weeks, burning thousands of cars and buses, attacking innocent civilians, in one case some youths doused a bus in petrol while people were on it and set it alight. There was a disabled lady in a wheelchair who was severely burned. Why are there no gangs of poor white kids from the poor underprivelleged suburbs rioting? Don't dare try to consider that there are no poor white kids in France. Like in Australia, there are many more areas that have underprivelleged classes of whites such as Wyong, Gosford, Woy Woy, Newcastle, Campletown, Ingleburn etc. These areas have similar populations to areas like Bankstown, Fairfield, Cabramatta and they have the smae high levels of unemployment(however there is one difference, Bob carr recently described the Lebanese gangs in western sydney as "fully employed in the illegal car reburthing racket", also the Vietnamese gangs and Middle-eastern gangs who are, as "minority peoples", supplying the whole country with narcotics-sure they are all on the dole, but unlike the white kids or the aboriginal kids who are visibly poor and destitute, these ethnic thugs have money and expensive cars and guns) that don't do what the idiots in France have done. You watch, when just one injustice happens against the muslim community here in Australia, they will errupt, like the blacks in the LA riots, they were constantly bombarded with reasons for their anger from the left that it was white man's fault, when in fact there are lots of poor people, many of whom are white(if not more who are white, and instead of help and sympathy poor white people are laughed at and joked about-white trash, trailer park trash, etc)and it is not a racial issue atleast these days in the western world. After they errupt in Bankstown, ask yourself this :
When the white kids in Macquarie fields rioted why did they only target the police? Why did they not go into the city and loot, bash and burn the innocent?
Posted by Matthew S, Saturday, 12 November 2005 7:02:27 AM
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