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Reflecting on the Cologne attacks one month on : Comments

By Petra Bueskens, published 2/2/2016

Feminists are in a conundrum with the Cologne attacks: speak out and align with racism or be silent and align with complicity.

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Kilarny: as refugees flood to the West in their millions. And it's going to get a whole lot worse.

I guess Europe has started to wake up & ship them home. I glad Australia is an Island as it makes it harder for them to get here un aided by Labor & the Greens. None of these men are Refugees. They have fled for Economic reasons & Cowards leaving most of their women behind to face ISIS or other Fundamentalist Groups.

They bring their ancient beliefs with them & try to impose their beliefs on the west. Then the Greenies, PC, the Loony Left & Raving Feminazi support them. The very people whose head will roll first.
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 7:35:27 PM
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Aristocrat

‘A lot of the right-wing movements gaining popularity at the moment have an anti-globalist agenda.’

Yes, I agree. But they are more the radical Right, which has a lot in common with the radical Left. The conservative mainstream Right, like the conservative mainstream Left, are in most cases fully behind the West/Nato’s wars on the Middle East. A lot of the reason for this is that they get most of their information from the Western mainstream media, which is very propagandistic. The PNAC is very influential in this regard, but there are many other factors involved, especially the global corporate agenda, which are outside the scope of this discussion.

I hate putting myself in the ‘apologists for ISIS’ camp by default. Like most people, the more I read about ISIS, the less I know. All I can see is that the Muslim countries of the Middle East have been crippled and destroyed by sanctions, serial regime change, bombing and invasions (either by proxy or direct) – and it’s been going on for many decades. This is enough to spawn a lot of anger and resentment towards the West.

Traditionally, both sides of political conflicts use rape and sexual assault as a weapon of war. I fear that, the more war refugees flood into Europe, women and women’s rights will increasingly become a battlefield in its own right. Feminists have enough on their plate dealing with Western sexism and the anti-feminist backlash; they need this new round of ‘exotic’ assaults on women like the proverbial hole in the proverbial head.

Jayb

I have no idea how many of the Muslim refugees are what you describe. But, from the comfort of my cosy Western lifestyle and keyboard, I can at least try to relate to their misery. If the West is unable to leave Muslim countries alone, then we can’t keep claiming the moral high ground when they retaliate against us.
Posted by Killarney, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 11:39:16 PM
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I have to agree with Killarney, and say that the west should just leave the Middle East alone.

We should have let Iran defeat Iraq and started a holy war between Shiites and Sunnis a lot sooner. And if Iraq had managed to keep the Iranians at bay, we should have let Saddam invade Kuwait, and then take Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States. With 70% of the world's oil supplies and Mecca in his hands, Iraq could have become a military superpower for Islam. Both I and Killarney can't see a problem with that. Islam could have begun it's Jihad against us much sooner, after the Sunnis under Saddam had managed to wipe out 60 million Iranians. The sooner the Muslims take over the West, the sooner we will have peace.

We should have let the Taliban take over all of Afghanistan and let Osama bin Laden and his merry men continue to use Afghanistan as a base for terrorist activities against western countries. The Taliban could continue to stone women to death, shoot schoolgirls in the face, and hang men off goal posts during soccer games to provide added entertainment for the crowds.

We should have let Maumar Ghaddafi win in Libya and massacre his enemies which he promised he was going to do.

We should stop supporting Israel and let the Arabs conquer the place, kill every male Jew, gang bang the Jewish females and turn them into sex slaves. We should let the Arabs turn Israel from the Middle East's only successful democracy which can give it's people a decent standard of living, into another dysfunctional Islamic Arab cesspit.

The problems in the Middle east have nothing to do with Islam, it is all the West's fault. We must not interfere, because if the responsible and advanced countries of this world try and stop Muslim anarchy, it will just make the Muslims angry.

As that Swedish minister once famously said, "We must be nice to Muslims, so when they become the majority, they will be nice to us."
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 4 February 2016 2:37:07 AM
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Lego

Lest we forget, the West has also had its squabbling civil wars, the most recent of which (WWI and II) left almost 100 million dead and many more millions displaced. And let's not even start counting the death toll from the West's empires and its past sectarian power struggles between Protestants and Catholics.

All countries find their own way forward when left in peace. That's a basic rule of existence that the West retains for itself, but not for countries deemed unsuitable to Western interests.
Posted by Killarney, Thursday, 4 February 2016 3:52:51 AM
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Aristocrat,

I tend to agree that it is a good article. Or - as seen from Cologne where I am sitting - an interesting article. I also agree that most feminists (I am referring to the German scene) refuse to be critical of non-Western cultures and habits. One notable exemption is Alice Schwarzer, the mother (or rather grand-mother, born 1942) of German feminists who on 5th January published an article (in German) with the title “Consequences of false tolerance” (http://www.aliceschwarzer.de/artikel/das-sind-die-folgen-der-falschen-toleranz-331143 ). Nevertheless, the majority of feminists here, as far as I can tell, are of the Suseonline ilk.

There is one assertion in the article that is certainly wrong, namely “the Cologne attacks show that a radicalized fringe of Muslim fundamentalists are active in the West”.

The about 1000 active and passive (forming a ring preventing the haples victims from escaping and the heavily outnumbered police from intervening) perpetrators were intoxicated, hence hardly “Muslim fundamentalists”.

Nevertheless, it is true that BOTH criminal elements from Northern Africa AND “radicalised Muslim fundamentalists” have had an easier access to Europe “on the back of” genuine refugees crossing the uncontrollable borders, whether invited or not.
Posted by George, Thursday, 4 February 2016 8:35:22 AM
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Killarney: If the West is unable to leave Muslim countries alone, then we can’t keep claiming the moral high ground when they retaliate against us.

Oh I agree. All the Refugees should be sent back to whence they came, kids & all. Close the Borders, Turkey to Pakistan, Iran to Somalia. No one comes out. All Western influences on any description removed. No weapons to be sold to them. Let them go for it. Should be over in six months.
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 4 February 2016 9:00:35 AM
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