mhaze

A quote from Japanese Times in relation to Lake Poopo:

"However, recovery may no longer be possible, scientists say.

“This is a picture of the future of climate change,” says Dirk Hoffman, a German glaciologist who studies how rising temperatures from the burning of fossil fuels has accelerated glacial melting in Bolivia.

As Andean glaciers disappear so do the sources of Poopo’s water. But other factors are in play in the demise of Bolivia’s second-largest body of water behind Lake Titicaca.

Drought caused by the recurrent El Nino meteorological phenomenon is considered the main driver. Authorities say another factor is the diversion of water from Poopo’s tributaries, mostly for mining but also for agriculture."

Further into the article a mining executive blames climate change for the drying of Lake Poopo.
The article identifies mining, agriculture, climate change and El Nino as being reasons for Lake Poopo to dry; basically human activity being the reason. There are issues generally in the Andes and elsewhere of glaciers regressing. Listed below is not the original source I found information about Lake Poopo from, but it mentioned climate change, agriculture, and mining as being the cause of the Lakes demise. Did Lake Poopo evaporate to almost nothing in 1997/98?

"http://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2016/01/30/environment/bolivias-second-largest-lake-lost-warming/#.Vq5XbceO5sN

The current El Nino appears as though it is cranking up; since the early 1980s the biggest three El Ninos have been recorded using reliable evidence since recording began. The year after an El Nino has begun is generally warmer than the year of inception. Already 2015 has been recorded with higher temperatures than 1998; should the trend continue 2016 will be the warmest year globally since pre industrial times. All very interesting when we have the sun in a dimming phase, Antarctica's sea ice extent is down currently, and Oceans are warming.

When Tim downplays the reaction of CO2 in relation to climate change he is ignoring what the science is saying. Tim offers many opinions without any proof.

No comments about Florida; mhaze, where 14 Mayors are petitioning Republican candidates in relation to sea level rise.

Leo
Your reference doesn't work.

In my last post El Nino was mentioned, having sent off the post, this came to my attention. Written by a scientist:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/record-hot-2015-glimpse-future-global-warming.html

A very interesting graph is provided in relation to El Nino, La Nina, and Neutral years.
Also, comments are made about satellite accuracy in relation to measuring temperature.
Deniers like to have it both ways; they suggest that the actual recording of temperature from 1880 doesn't provide a long enough record; yet, use 1998 as the start point for any graphs they might provide. Also, the temperature measured at weather stations is ignored, the data goes back more than 100 years. Paleoclimatologists are able to infer temperature from a number of sources going back into different epochs.
Satellites infer temperature from layers of atmosphere, a bit like trying to measure an inch when the measure you are using only measures feet without any finer gradations, I suppose. The temperature derived from satellites does not measure the surface where we reside.

ok ant, let's drop it. You read an article you didn't like, fabricated claims about what the author said so that you could refute the article, got caught and now refuse to admit it. So be it...we now know how you operate.

"No comments about Florida; mhaze,"

ant, if you think I'm going to respond every time you stumble across some AlGore wannabe telling us we're all gunna die 40 years from next Tuesday week, then I'm gunna disappoint you.

Is Florida going to flood? Maybe.

Is that proof of AGW? Nup.

The end.

mhaze

You ask " Is Florida going to flood? Maybe."

Your problem is that flooding is happening in Florida, it was taken up by the series Years of Living Dangerously, Union of Concerned Scientists, and 14 Mayers petitioning Republican Presidential candidates, along with other references as well.

Already in 2010 sea level rise in Florida was being investigated, quite an old reference:

http://seagrant.noaa.gov/Portals/0/Documents/what_we_do/climate/Florida%20Report%20on%20Climate%20Change%20and%20SLR.pdf

Film clip discussing sea level rise during clear weather:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-fZnlR_IJ0

A Washington Post article that provides a summary of the characteristics which lead to flooding during king tides. Commonsense suggests that infrastructure would not have been built in areas where flooding now occurs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/10/20/during-autumn-king-tides-nuisance-flooding-becomes-chronic-flooding-in-miami-area/

You suggest that fabrication of what Tim stated has occurred, Tim makes comments that cut across underpinnings of climate science; you are not able to debunk it so term it "fabrication".

The earth is flat; mhaze, we have been told by a rapper B.o.B, to debunk that is fabrication; there lies the logic of your comments.

The flea says:” Leo
Your reference doesn't work”
It is English, but there is no way to ascertain what it means..
I have already supplied the science which supports Tim’s assertions.I will copy it again:

"an absence of significant global warming since 1979 - that is, over the very period that human carbon dioxide emissions have been increasing rapidly. The satellite data signal not only the absence of substantial human-induced warming, by recording similar temperatures in 1980 and 2006, but also provide an empirical test of the greenhouse hypothesis as understood by the public - a test that the hypothesis fails.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1547979/A-dangerous-climate

What does Dirk Hoffman, say about Lake Mungo, which supported thousands of aborigines before it dried up, before we invented cars or burnt fossil fuels?
A fraud like him would still connect it to climate change.
You are still asking stupid questions, flea, to dishonestly imply the non-existent link between global warming and extreme weather.

Leo

A day or so ago Antarctica sea ice was about 200,000 kilometres below the average extent for the time of year. It sea ice constantly varies but the increase deniers have crowed about has melted away. Sea ice in the Arctic is also in a parlous state.

Satellite technology is mooted as providing a more accurate measure of temperature by deniers; except the Australian measures are not complying with the denier arguments. The satelitte measures are displaying higher temperatures than those recorded at weather stations.

https://theconversation.com/the-weather-bureau-might-be-underestimating-australian-warming-heres-why-53982

Three separate studies have shown how Oceans have been warming.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/phytoplankton-rapidly-disappearing-indian-ocean

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jan/18/world-oceans-warming-faster-rate-new-study-fossil-fuels?CMP=soc_567

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/phytoplankton-rapidly-disappearing-indian-ocean

So we have a study comparing historic data from a research ship which collected temperature data of Oceans in the 1870s with contemporary data, satellite data, and the demise of phytoplankton in the Indian Ocean.