Thanks N.S.W. voters!

David, if you want to move to the US then go ahead, you can move to country that better represents your preferred way of life. One of them southern state will open carry laws would suit you by the sounds of it.

Given the trouble we have with king hits and fighting in general in our larger cities, allowing people to also carry firearms would not reduce problems would increase the consequences.

David, you have a great example in the US for your assertion that more firearms in the community would reduce crimes. Most mass shootings in the US are stopped by uniform police.
If you can site any examples of it being stopped by armed citizen we would all be informed

David's articles brings up the matter of shadow dominating substance, the illusion of make-believe.

But then it's the result of much of life's conditioning - to accept branding at face value and not question the content.
It's a little like the old truism about knowing the cost of everything, but the value of nothing.

But never forget that guns have but one function - to kill.
Would you be willing to just kill somebody a little bit?

I don't care how he's dressed David, I would love to change places with Clark Kent!

Even so I loved being in uniform and the wolf whistles that I got from some young and very well made women. Although the tux produced a fair share of admirers, back when! "Memories and the windmills of my mind!"
Rhrosty.

I reckon overpaid, greed-is-good politicians, like Leyonhjelm, deserve uniforms.

Perhaps striped pajamas with a yellow "P" on the breast pocket.

Any other suggestions?

I am a dual citizen of the USA and Australia. Because of John Howard's actions in restricting guns I feel much safer in Australia. This is one area in which the USA should copy Australia. David Leyonhjelm is more interested in serving his ideology than in promoting public safety.

//Any other suggestions?//

Straitjackets.

There is not much you can do at all, in Australia these days: not even protect yourself. The idea is get the crap beaten out of yourself then, if you survive, you go and tell a nice policeman who, with a few colleagues, will make a report, tell the media, run around like headless chooks for up to 7 days, then forget about it. Meanwhile, politicians will fight like wildcats to prevent you from getting any compensation. Police are only of any use at all in protecting you if you can get them on the scene before you are at risk. Highly likely!

Disarming the public is just another step towards dictatorship. And, for the clowns who keep harping on what goes on in America, their pysche and ours are way different. We have had one lunatic in Tasmania: The U.S manages one or more every few days. And no, I am not a gun owner.

Yeah ttbn

We have the right to escalate the risk of be beaton up (why?) or pub brawls into fatal shootings.

We have the right to bear arms and wear hip holders visible in public like our blood brothers in New Mexico. http://www.onlinecarrytraining.com/new-mexico-concealed-carry-law :

"New Mexico allows the open carry of both handguns and long guns as long as they are clearly visible. Concealed carry is allowed with a permit for handguns only. New Mexico has state preemption regarding the possession and use of firearms. Local governments may not impose any laws that restrict the possession or use of firearms."

It is self evident that we should emulate the US and NRA white supremicists to give us permission to fight the authorities who wanna take away our guns.

That's all we Aussies, with a low rate of fatal shootings, need.

Let us all in OLO thank David Leyonhjelm for furthering his political career by promoting our right to easy (and legal) killing.

I will never touch a gun again, since as a conscript I was forced to use them against my will.

Nevertheless I will feel safer if potential burglars would THINK that I have a gun at home.
(one more reason to keep OLO anonymous)

While I understand why people should not be allowed to carry weapons in public areas, people should still be able to defend their own homes.

Poor old David. Has he realised that his post could be read as a call to ban guns not only for the general public but for police as well? I suggest it is his fetish that has blinkered him to all reason on this matter. Given the rate of gun deaths in the US, as others have commented, only a lunatic could hold the views this senator proposes.

I can think of one firearm law that we should have: no politician to be protected by armed persons, other than police in the normal course of their duties.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

The USA has the highest rate of gun ownership in the world but it doesn't have the highest rate of gun crime or crime in general; why is that?

Mostly agree, Is Mise, and would like to see the stats on gun crime, which you claim is higher than the USA? A credible link please, if you will.

There seems to be more guns in the USA than people? And given this is so, why are there any people left in that gun crazy society at all?

I mean, given ownership of a gun inevitably leads to using one to kill somebody? As attested by the hysterical anti gun lobby and their verbal vomit?

Satire aside, they should have a prohibited person register, if only to keep lethal weapons and explosive materials out of the hands of fruit loops!

Incidently a gun crime invariably happens in seconds, and the police best possible response, minutes?

Which logically rules out preventative policing and just reaction after the event? Much too late then!

And given pollies and their views are such juicy targets, I think they should be protected or actually armed. And let's see about what's good for the goosey goosey gander then?
Rhrosty.

Yep

And with the worst gun slaughters happening in American schools teachers should be allowed to carry guns to shoot back at students who bring their parents' guns to school.

The idea of armed guards in each classroom is a bit expensive so teachers, after training courses, should carry.

This would also imbue a bit of final respect in minority students who are prone to assault white teachers.

Rhosty,

Homicides/100,000 population.

USA: 3.55

Venezuela: 39.00

South Africa: 12.61

Brazil: 18.79

Colombia: 23.93

Costa Rica: 5.92

El Salvador: 26.49

Guatemala: 29.62

Honduras: 66.64

Mexico: 14.20

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

Sources:
(Krug 1998) EG Krug, KE Powell and LL Dahlberg. "Firearm-related deaths in the United States and 35 other high- and upper-middle-income countries.", International Journal of Epidemiology 1998.[76] Statistics among 36 countries between 1990 and 1995.
(UNODC 2002)The Eighth United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (2001–2002). United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime 2005.[77] This report provides more updated information on homicide by firearms, but not on suicide by firearms.
(UNODC 2000)The Seventh United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (1998–2000). United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime 2002.[78] This report provides more updated information on homicide by firearms, but not on suicide by firearms.

plus.

Thanks for that Is mise. Incidently I like the idea of visibly armed phys Ed teachers in some schools, the ones I would arm wouldn't have a problem demanding attention or compliance with essential rules.

Former drill sergeants who know how to say what they mean and mean what they say would do? (hup 2,3,4! Face the front and keep the hands out of pockets.)

Non compliance with reasonable and essential rules or drug dealing, failing a metal detector examination etc/etc. Should result in unavoidable consequences, like say a few months in a survival type boot camp and having no choice but to march from point A to point B, and back via a circuitous and diabolical zig zag route, carrying your essential survival equipment on your back, inside the allowed time, lest the entire course be repeated?

In any event the proposed guns and their holsters should be equipped with a with a personal bio mechanical safety, which should mean, only the owner of the, normal body temperature, identifying fingerprints/DNA could pull and then use the weapon?

Which could just as easily carry a mag full of 15 50 cal non lethal bean bags as lethal rounds, or some combination which would come into play as a last possible resort. After all the non lethal rounds had been expended?

Even then, the non lethal rounds would still be lethal at close point blank range! Something that could be demonstrated on non living material to reinforce the respect they should invoke?

If uniforms and load affirmative instructions, could assist with reasonable compliance issues, why not?
Rhrosty

Hi Rhrosty

Yeah plastic bullets and sand filled shot gun shells can do wounders for democratic encouragement.

Boot camps that teaches micreants how to kill, shoot and unarmed combat is also good (but not really).

Army bootcamp training as an alternative to prison is frequently suggested by ignorant men and many women who don't know any better.

Many in the Australian Army disliked being basic trainers for national servicemen (1965-72) as it lowered average infantry skills overall. Hence the totally different philosophy of repeat tour special forces in hot spots these days.

Cheers