runner and Aristocrat,

Spot on. Ditto.

No answer Andrew?
These blokes are spot on! Why stop with this? Lets really get stuck into all the muslim over their historical invasions and massacres with your new chums eh Andrew? To say nothing of their present behaviour.

I believe it's hard issue in every country. Many nations have problems in accepting their history. What's more - it is often very hard to say if widely known history is actually real.

The best thing that ever happened to the aboriginal people (especially aboriginal women) in 40,000 years was the arrival of the British.

The aboriginal people were caught in a time warp where they could never advance. Denied having fauna that could be domesticated, or any flora that could be cropped, they could never advance beyond a hand-to-mouth existence. Their culture was probably unique in it's extreme violence towards women, a practise that continues to this day. Although Andrew with his own history of violence towards women in the Australian parliament, probably approves of this well known behaviour of aboriginal men towards aboriginal women.

The colonial settlement by an advanced civilisation of this planet's fifth continent was an inevitable as the rising of tomorrows sun. You would have to be as stupid as a Greens or Australian Democrats voter to even entertain the thought that the advanced civilisations of this world was going to just sail past the world's fifth continent, and just wave at the worlds most backward people. Or think that black people anywhere could ever create modern functioning societies. Thank heavens it was the British who came first. If it had been the Germans or the Japs there would be no aborigines today. The Arabs would have made them all slaves and bred them out of existence. The Dutch or Belgians would have exploited them as something akin to slaves.
Australia is one of the best countries in the world, Andrew, so our ancestors obviously did something right.

I used to be a trendy lefty too, Andrew. But it was this hatred of your own culture and people which turned me right off your left wing ideology and forced me to think rationally. I grew out of it. What happened to you? Do you really believe the crap you are sprouting? Or are you some sort of Elmer Gantry figure who is smart enough to know that there are plenty of suckers around who need to believe that they are morally pure, and that a smart dude, who's own drunken behaviour is hardly beyond reproach, can exploit that?

The actual people responsible for that history and from all sides, need to front up and own their own behavior!
What? they're all dead now?

Struth, how can we get them to pay restitution!?

I know, let's see if we can get their great great great grandkids to embark on some sort of guilt trip.

And if that works, well the Japanese and the Germans still owe us war debt money?
Rhrosty.

ANDREW BARTLET: What have the Romans ever done for us?: They've bled us white, the bastards. They've taken everything we had, and not just from us, from our fathers, and from our fathers' fathers.

NATASHA STOTT DESTROYA: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers.

BOB BROWN: Yeah.

NATASHA STOTT DESTROYA: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers' fathers.

ANDREW BARTLET: Yeah. All right, NATASHA. Don't labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?!

LARISSA WATERS: The aqueduct?

ANDREW BARLET: What?

LARISSA WATERS: The aqueduct.

ANDREW BARTLET: Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. Uh, that's true. Yeah.

LEE RHIANNON: And the sanitation.

NATASHA STOTT DESTROYA: Oh, yeah, the sanitation, ANDREW. Remember what the city used to be like? God! This place used to stink before the Romans came here.

ANDREW BARTLET: Yeah. All right. I'll grant you the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done.

BOB BROWN: And the roads.

ANDREW BARTLET: Well, yeah. Obviously the roads. I mean, the roads go without saying, don't they? But apart from the sanitation, the aqueduct, and the roads--

SARAH HANSON YOUNG: Irrigation.

SCOTT LUDLAM: Medicine.

NATASHA STOTT DESTROYA: Education.

LEE RHIANNON: Ohh...Yeah!

ANDREW BARTLET: Yeah, yeah. All right. Fair enough.

LARISSA WATERS: And the wine.

LEE RHIANNON: Oh, yes. the wine.

NATASHA STOTT DESTROYA: Yeah. Yeah, that's something we'd really miss, ANDREW, if the Romans left.

SCOTT LUDLAM: Public baths.

LEE RHIANNON : And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now, ANDREW.

SARAH HANSON YOUNG: Yeah, they certainly know how to keep order. Let's face it. They're the only ones who could in a place like this.

ANDREW BARTLET: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the aqueduct, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, public safety, public baths, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

BOB BROWN: PEACE: Peace?

ANDREW BARTLET: Oh. Peace? Shut up!