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Obama's ignorance is his Palestinian nemesis : Comments

By David Singer, published 15/1/2016

His inability to fully comprehend Jewish history and the connection of the Jewish people to the land of Israel was the catalyst for his inevitable failur

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Well, and this is the most intelligent and erudite president to inhabit the White House for many a year!

Simply put David anybody who disagrees with your view of the world, which allows the unspeakable, the unjustifiable, the unconscionable, just has to be ignorant?

It must be such a comfort to know you're always right?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Friday, 15 January 2016 8:37:24 AM
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Yep on every major issue the regressives get it wrong. Obama has proved this again. No doubt he will be nominated for a nobel peace prize for helping Iran achieve its peaceful goals. Well said David.
Posted by runner, Friday, 15 January 2016 9:55:33 AM
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Dear David,

I can see nothing wrong with Obama's remarks. You didn't point out any error in his remarks either. You merely wanted Obama to speak like Netanyahu. Having a connection with a land does not mean that other people's rights are not important. There should be no Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu or Buddhist states. Every state should be a state for all of its people with equal rights for all people regardless of ethnicity or religion. Ethnic nationalism is a consequence of the Romantic movement in Europe which based nations on a sense of history, a religion or a shared ethnicity. Jews participated in forming those nations. When they were formed there often was no room for Jews. So Jews developed their own ethnic nationalism called Zionism. It is time to get rid of all such notions of nationalism. The American and French Revolutions were based on the rights of all men. That has been extended to include women. The US originally had a black person recognised as a fraction of a white person. The election of Obama showed the US getting rid of that notion. I am an American Jew living in Australia and am proud of President Obama. Jews have a history of being persecuted in states where they were a minority. In the US Jews are eligible for the highest office in the land. Bernie Sanders, a Jew, is running for president. Israel is called a Jewish democratic state. When a non-Jew can have a realistic expectation of being Israel's president or prime minister then Israel might be able to claim it is democratic.

Obama knows a lot about Jewish and other history. He is an educated, thoughtful and intelligent man. In his State of the Union Speech he said:

"... see ourselves not first and foremost as black or white or Asian or Latino, not as gay or straight, immigrant or native born; not as Democrats or Republicans, but as Americans first, bound by a common creed....;voices of unarmed truth and unconditional love."

That's a far greater vision than one of ethnic nationalism.
Posted by david f, Friday, 15 January 2016 10:34:56 AM
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I suppose that if Israel keeps searching long enough it will eventually find the title deeds buried in the sand somewhere.
In the meantime keep killing and oppressing the Palestinians who also have every right to live in their homeland.
Posted by ateday, Friday, 15 January 2016 10:55:12 AM
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It's alright everyone Runner has just given the author his seal of approval and we all know what that means.

As Rhrosty says it must such a great place to be in David land where everything he thinks is true is, what's that mythbusters saying...

"I reject your reality and substituent my own".
Posted by Cobber the hound, Friday, 15 January 2016 11:14:48 AM
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Ah Dave you and Runner would not be fit to tie OBamas shoelaces Israel brings it problems upon itself,the utter arrogance of the people like you who support this murderous regime are breath taking.
Runner just need a nice room in a hospital with not a Bible in sight and books telling him its all made up
Posted by John Ryan, Friday, 15 January 2016 1:50:30 PM
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