Cobber:

“phanto it is because religious groups effectively are funded by the government.”

How does this type of article change that? What is the point of trying to show that religion is largely irrelevant . It does not matter one way or the other. Religious people have the right to express their opinions - what matters is how they behave.

If they are getting funds from the government then it is the government that needs to do the talking. They need to explain what reasons they have for giving them funds. If they are giving out funds without good reason then it is they who should be under question and not religious people.

Religious people are not going to stop asking for funds so it is up to the non-religious to demand the reasons for the government’s behaviour. Religious people are not subject to reason and logic by their own definition but governments are.

'Runner if your god is responsible for every breath we take then he must also be responsible for all the rapes and murders and kiddy fiddling too. I'

I know Cobber that secularism likes to keep as many people as possible in the constant state of victimhood (look at the high paid white feminist). But sorry mate you are responsible for your own lust, greeds, rapes, kiddie fiddling or whatever sins you have committed. I suggest you go to the Only One qualified to forgive you.

G'day RUNNER...

I'm an atheist but I still can't quite understand why it's necessary for other atheists and non-believers to continually seek to condemn and pillory all those who believe in a God, Christianity or any other religious faiths?

To sneer, censure or denounce those individuals who genuinely believe in God and Jesus Christ, as long as it doesn't interfere with the lives and activities of others, others who don't share those beliefs, then they should be left quite alone without being disparaged or denigrated by these so called intellectual types who claim to know everything!

COBBER THE HOUND seeks to lay blame on God for all those abhorrent crimes occasioned against these unfortunate women and children? COBBER, it's not this 'God figure' who's responsible for these crimes, it's these 'maggot men', who by any definition are just criminals! And I can assure you, when these blokes hit 'boob', they'll immediately have the 'dog' put on 'em, so much so, they'll quickly ask to be placed in 'protection' for their own safety!

The fact that some religious leaders, have also engaged in such heinous crimes, means nothing as far as this 'God figure' is concerned. After all they're criminals, 'slugs' who pose as human beings, who deserve nothing less then long gaol terms, together with a thorough floggin' upon their reception in boob!

COBBER, this 'GOD figure' is not to blame? You can't level accusations of culpability at something or someone that doesn't exist? It's these lowlife dogs, who pose as members of the human race, it's them and them alone where the blame must squarely rest!

o sung wu:

And there but for the grace of God go you!

Why keep propping up churches with the actions they have been found with. If they want to survive let the congregation pay the bills.

'I'm an atheist but I still can't quite understand why it's necessary for other atheists and non-believers to continually seek to condemn and pillory all those who believe in a God, Christianity or any other religious faiths? '

o sung su

I suspect that they know how patheticly weak their own belief/worldview system is. It holds up no moral compass and certainly no science to back it.

Cheers