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Peace loving Australian Muslims deserve a ‘fair go’! : Comments

By Aqeel Choudhry, published 24/12/2015

The peaceful, loyal and law-abiding Australian Muslims deserve a 'fair go'. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is a perfect example as victim of this over generalisation.

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funny how it took abc/fairfax 5 days to report these sexual assaults by up to a thousand immigrant (muslim) men. I suppose they were to busy finding a mentally disturbed 'Christian' killing killers at an abortion clinic in America so the a few regressives can confirm their completely flawed and bigoted narrative.. Anyway Merkel will get all the applause from the UN.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 9:46:22 AM
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Dear runner,

Perhaps the ones with university degrees can see
the bigger picture. (They can afford to buy bigger
screens). (joke).

What about the person who king-hit that 18 year old young man
and killed him over the Christmas break in Brisbane.? I don't
believe he was a Muslim. And these sort of incidents happen
all the time in this country around night-clubs and pubs.

And BTW Muslims are not allowed alcohol, so you can't blame
them for such attacks. This incident appears to be a typical
trait (ocker) for some.

My husband in his youth lived in a typical inner "ocker"
city suburb with six pubs within easy walking distance
and up until the six o'clock closing - these sort of
incidents were happening all the time. In those days there
were no Muslims in the area. However, historically the whole
of the English/Irish history is full of this sort of behaviour.
They even portray it in television productions.

All you have to do is watch football games and see the behaviour
of some - who head-butt, and fight, and attack others for no
apparent reason. And you can't blame alcohol on the football
field. Before pointing fingers at others we need to clean up
our own behaviour.

If we want to take responsibility for the world we need to
take more seriously our individual contributions to it.
Personal transformation can and does have global effects.
As we go, so goes the world, for the world is us.

Marianne Williamson writes that -

"Ultimately the choice to love each other is the only chance
for a survivable future. The meek shall inherit the earth
because everyone else will have died on their swords.
Every time we open our hearts, we create a space for a
global alternative."
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 10:18:21 AM
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Dear Foxy,

A delightful straw man ! Who says that Muslims commit ALL violent offences ? All coward punches ? Anybody on this thread ?

Of course people from other groups commit violent offences, even violent offences against random people. Why ? Because there are drop-kicks around. If those blokes who killed Cole Miller had been sober, and yelled out 'Om !' or 'Praise the Lord !' or 'Up the Workers !' or some other identifiable religious or political slogan, we might suspect a more deliberate act of random killing.

On those grounds, what do we infer when somebody DOES yell out 'Allahu Akbar !' when they blow somebody's head off, or attack coppers, or shoot people in cafes ? Presumably, that it is a deliberate act of random killing, isn't that so ?

If those two who killed Cole had yelled out 'Allahu Akbar!', what might have been your interpretation ? They didn't, so we can discount their actions as politically or religiously motivated. They'll have plenty of time to reflect on it all. Cole Miller won't.

As for the meek inheriting the earth, what do you reckon people are fleeing Syria for ? Perhaps because they know, in a hundred ways, that in the coming War between Sunni and Shi'a, a ghastly War of Attrition, to the death, they will be like bugs underfoot, that there is absolutely no future for them in Syria, and not for a long time to come. So get the hell out of the place, start fresh somewhere else - anywhere else - and most certainly, that there is no place in Syria for the meek. God, what a stupid thing for Williamson to write.

No offence, dear Foxy :)

Love,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 10:44:53 AM
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Dear Joe (Loudmouth),

I agree with Williamson.

Only the most bitter and cynical among us
still cling to the dreams of a soulless
world, but I believe that they are not as
powerful as they claim and people shall rise up
against their influence.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 12:27:55 PM
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Dear Foxy,

So people shouldn't be fleeing Syria ? They should stay and wait for an opportunity to rise up against the influence of ISIS ? And against the combined forces of the Saudis and Sunni groups and Iran and the Shi'ite groups ? Until they grind each other into the ground, and the poor buggers caught underfoot ?

If I were them, I'd most certainly not risk it, I'd rather get the hell out and take my chances on the Aegean, and the long march to Sweden or wherever.

No, my dear Foxy, sometimes the meek don't inherit the earth. Should people have stayed in eastern Europe and toughed it out against the Soviets and their gulags ? What happened to those that did, do you reckon ?

Sometimes love, meekness and peace don't conquer all.

But love always,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 12:56:42 PM
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Dear Joe,

People will always flee danger and oppressive regimes.
After all my own family did just that when
they fled from the Soviet Regime. As did many Displaced
Persons after World War II. They contributed so much
to the enrichment of this country. As I am sure
most of those fleeing here from Syria and other
"oppressive areas" will do exactly the same
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 1:22:18 PM
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