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UN’S decarbonisation mission impossible : Comments

By Michael Kile, published 24/12/2015

An international pension fund coalition - co-founded by a UN agency last September - wants to shift at least USD600 billion of other people’s money out of fossil fuels and into renewable energy projects.

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The woman in the interview said the IPCC claimed the world was turning into a fireball. I'm not sure Joe Public disagrees. Today for example
http://www.news.com.au/national/cyclone-flood-and-fire-warnings-in-place-across-much-of-australia/news-story/a96d661ddd77403ae4362029d40bcac0

New York which dreams of a white Christmas is currently 21C which is T-shirt wearing weather. If such temperature anomalies keep recurring it will get harder to convince people there is no warming trend.
Posted by Taswegian, Friday, 25 December 2015 6:43:48 AM
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Weather is not climate. Resist temptation to make it so with dodgy claims about frequency of 'extreme weather events' - and especially 'intensity' of a single EWE.

Just another media scare-story. Newsrooms full of bored folk desperate for some excitement this time of the year.

Relax. Keep cool and carry on. You don't need to suffer from self-induced climate-apocalypse syndrome at Xmas.

But is it not all due primarily to 0.04% carbon dioxide in the atmosphere; most of which is due to human activity? As the Duke of Wellington said: "If you believe that, you'll believe anything."

Climate is, at least as currently defined by WMO,average weather over a 30-year period.

Where were the alarmists, incidentally, when southern Australia - including Adelaide, Melbourne, Canberra - experienced its coldest winter in over two decades this year, with first snow at sea-level in Hobart since 1986; and at a time when Antarctica recorded increased sea-ice - over 7% above its long-term average extent?

As quiet as hibernating mice in a mid-winter field.
Posted by Alice Thermopolis, Friday, 25 December 2015 11:15:12 AM
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"I'm not sure Joe Public disagrees."

The general view is that climate change is a low order issue...

"But more than seven [ now ten] million people who responded to a recent U.N. global survey ranked climate concerns at the very bottom of their priorities."

http://data.myworld2015.org/

But its easy to be mislead by those making the most noise.

"New York which dreams of a white Christmas...."

The chances of NY getting a white Christmas in any particular year is 7%. Not having one this year or any other means nothing unless you are determined to ignore the data and push the propaganda.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 25 December 2015 11:37:39 AM
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It's true Tassie had sea level snow on August 3rd. Right now it is 35C in sub-alpine areas and outback style dust devils are whirling above gravel roads. Perhaps some of the emissions abatement budget should be used to educate the public how to interpret this correctly.
Posted by Taswegian, Friday, 25 December 2015 12:42:36 PM
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And mhaze has got a bookful of statistics to prove it. He has statistics to prove anything. He doesn't have any knowledge, just statistics. He substitutes statistics for knowledge. He doesn't even have to think about things because he has a whole lot of statistics to prove anything that pops up in discussions. He belongs to that new subculture: statistics fetishism. People like maze don't need to go to university and acquire knowledge because to them knowledge is irrelevant because - yes you guessed it - they have a statistic to proven anything.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 26 December 2015 4:38:56 PM
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Mr O,

When trying to decide if something, say the number of Chinese in Australia, there are several ways to make the evaluation.

One is to look for available data on the question as compiled by reputable people/organisations, examine that data, seek flaws in it, see if others have found flaws in it, check if others have obtained similar data via different methods and then form a conclusion as to the likely number of Chinese in Australia. This is what any learned person would do, I'd think.

The other is to take a stroll around some arbitrary part of the nation and randomly 'assess' how many of the people you pass are Chinese based on criteria that you refuse to discuss.

I'll leave others to decide which is the prefered method.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 26 December 2015 7:18:50 PM
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