EmperorJulian,

Those black clad women fiends who murdered that young mum would be welcomed here as 'refugees' and migrants by the leftist 'Progressives'. No court convictions recorded (they'd dump their papers anyway) and the diversity(sic) of the beliefs, values and traditions of a totalitarian, medieval, religio-political system, combined with decades of in-breeding.

otb,

Why do you persist in making such derogatory assumptions about
groups of certain Australians? You're inferring that
Progressives are somehow bad people and apologists for Islam?
How on earth would you know that? That would be akin to
saying that there's a fine line between Progressives and
people like some Conservatives who are just plain nuts.

You know that our governments have put in place certain criteria
that all refugees and immigrants
have to meet. All governments -
Progressive and Conservative have enabled and developed
our institutions and customs in response to the
Australian environment.

You might do better if you were to study the customs and
institutions that we recognise as Australian. The
institutional structure transplanted to Australia was often
modified, sometimes dramatically, to reflect our own
history and circumstances. The Westminster System of
parliamentary democracy was transformed by a written
constitution into a federal system of government.

Australia has become a vastly different place from the
British Isles in which our institutions originated.
Now you may not like this - but that is the reality.
Just as Britain is having to adapt to its changing
population, so our institutions are now required to
respond to the needs of a culturally and linguistically
diverse society.

What experts tell us is that we should make our institutional
heritage work better for us by enhancing their capacity to
respond flexibly to the need of an ethically mixed
population.

We need a position policy response. The Department of
Social Services makes this very clear. Inaction can only
exacerbate the problem. Governments of all persuasions
have always attempted to try to solve the problems.
That does not make any of them apologists or
supporters of terrorists. What they have strived to
achieve is social cohesion in this country. And they have
achieved this successfully. We are the envy of other
countries.

And, lets make this clear - We have laws in this country
that everyone is meant to abide by.

BTW: Why did you choose only a specific type of
criminal? There's criminals in this country
of various religious and ethnic persuasions
whose behaviour is also unjustifiable.

Which of our other criminals, Foxy, justify their actions by recourse to a religious book?
If one refused to stand up in Court for the Judge and cited the Vedas or the Bible or even the Book of Common Prayer one would find oneself in the cells for contempt rather quickly.

Oh come on Is Mise, even you should be aware of the many mentally unstable (or just mad religious) who use their own brand of God or religion to excuse any number of criminal activities, including murder?

What about the whack-jobs who claim their God told them to do it?
Certainly one doesn't need to be Muslim to do such a thing...

Dear Suse,

I guess it's time to pack it in.

It seems that all we're doing is building
a wall - the next logical step is not to
bang our heads against it.

I can see that it really is pointless
arguing any further.