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A royal commission into climate alarmism : Comments

By Rod McGarvie, published 8/12/2015

When will scientists review the underlying assumptions and biases on which their climate change theories and models rely?

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An interesting article and film clip in relation to the measurement of temperature.

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/12/ted-cruz-climate-change-pause

This year promises to be the warmest year on record globally; ironically, should this be the case the long term trend line will fall short of the 2015 peak.

Retired Admiral Titley (qualified Meteorologist) explains how satellite data on temperature is not as accurate as that recorded at weather stations. In other words he has explained that temperature as displayed by deniers is distorted and can be seen as a myth.
Incidently, a much earlier clip shows Admiral Titley giving a dissertation, he indicated that he had started out being a climate change skeptic.

ExxonMobil has recently stated they fully endorse the scientific consensus view of climate change.

A Royal Commission would be very useful in relation to political entitlements; but, to create a Royal Commission in regard to climate change would cause much laughter around the world.
Posted by ant, Thursday, 10 December 2015 7:09:08 AM
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Yeah and I am sure gw has contributed to domestic violence (we need to drink more in hot weather) and throwing homosexuals off building. Having a goose like Prince Charles certainly would have one voting for a republic.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 10 December 2015 9:15:46 AM
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ant,

You still haven't explained how the allegations against Exxon, even if completely true "pull the rug out from under the deniers".

As a further example, take Heartland which you raised. Its annual budget for all projects is $6million. Exxon used to donate but never more than $120000 per year and often much less. Why would such minor funding alter what Heartland said about global warming? (as an aside Heartland doesn't deny - that word again! - that some of the warming is due to man, only that it isn't a problem now and won't be a problem in the future.)
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 10 December 2015 11:56:23 AM
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mhaze, you minimise again, ExxonMobil funded a number of denier groups; I made it very clear that Heartlands and other denier groups were funded, hence Heartlands......et al.
The reference I provided featured a number of years beginning 2001 and a number of denier groups funded.

If you don't get my point about deniers being embarrassed, or having the carpet pulled from under them, so be it.
But, lately ExxonMobil has been saying that anthropogenic climate change is right; and despite having funded denier groups in the past, deniers of climate science are wrong
Posted by ant, Thursday, 10 December 2015 2:24:33 PM
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ant and other "CO2ist's",

If warming caused by CO2 is GLOBAL, why is there a greater and more consistent degree of warmth in the region of Greenland but not in Australia and New Zealand?
Posted by JF Aus, Thursday, 10 December 2015 2:30:15 PM
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Well I give up ant. You clearly don't want to address the issue.

"If you don't get my point about deniers being embarrassed, or having the carpet pulled from under them, so be it."

You've asserted this but not made a point. You've said it so but not said how its so. You haven't explained why the people you call deniers would care what Exxon thinks now if they didn't care what Exxon thought back then.

But I get that you prefer to just make the claim and not have to support it, so I'll let it lie.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 10 December 2015 3:21:19 PM
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