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A royal commission into climate alarmism : Comments

By Rod McGarvie, published 8/12/2015

When will scientists review the underlying assumptions and biases on which their climate change theories and models rely?

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Leo

Watts is not a scientist; so does not provide a science site.

There are skeptical scientists, and Carter is one.

But, Leo you have not produced any evidence that man created climate is not happening.

In the last week there was reference to a study suggesting that man has set back an ice age by several thousand years. Also, just lately there was a paper indicating that the sun has been in a dimming phase over the last five years and so temperature should have been cooling.

The view that temperature has not been increasing since 1998 is absurd. View temperature in a decadal mode as shown in film clip and it highlights just how puerile the comment is that temperature has not been increasing.

2015 has been recorded as the warmest year ever recorded, with 2014 the second highest by the Japanese Meteorological Agency. December 2015 recorded an average global temperature of 1.4C over prior December measures since 1890, recorded by JMA. The December measure is a concern on the basis that at the Paris deliberations the goal set was to try and stop the average global temperature exceeding 1.5C.
The December 1.4C temperature increase admittedly is for only one month but it does display an uncomfortable trend should 2016 temperatures set a record.

Where are these graphs wrong; Leo? They come from a science source.
They display recorded data:

https://vimeo.com/128141163
Posted by ant, Monday, 18 January 2016 5:59:30 AM
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Leo

This reference speaks for itself:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/opinion/sunday/cancer-and-climate-change.html?ref=topics&_r=1
Posted by ant, Monday, 18 January 2016 9:40:26 AM
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@ ant, Monday, 18 January 2016 5:59:30 AM

The graphs are wrong because they do not include impact of photosynthesis-linked warmth in increased algae plant matter in oceans that produce well over 50 percent of world oxygen.

How can such plant matter be excluded from climate science?

Who is behind the exclusion?

Bring on a Royal Commission.
Posted by JF Aus, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 8:44:21 AM
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J S Aus

Wow

The graphs showed actual measured temperatures.

But, a very recent paper suggests that the breakdown of huge ice bergs in Antarctica slows down climate change due to nutrients being spread. Phytoplanton are thriving as a result.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/01/11/the-surprising-way-that-huge-icebergs-slow-down-climate-change-a-little/
Posted by ant, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 3:43:32 PM
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Rumin ant,

Why do you now so often type the wrong initials for my login name?
Which brings to mind fact that plant matter eaten by ruminant animals has been measured and assessed but there has been no measurement and assessment of solar warmth in unprecedented sewage-linked plant matter in oceans and lakes and waterways of the world.

You are wasting time with CO2 non-sense, ant.

I makes me laugh to see science trying to say CO2 is melting ice causing release of nutrient proliferating algae.

Graphs should be showing all point sources of nutrient release as well as showing temperature of water the algae is in and speed and direction of currents transporting that nutrient and/or algae.

Climate alarmism nonsense about carbon is slowing down science and business and prosperity worldwide.

But at least now you can perhaps see there is no big cliff where the flat world ends, at least you can now see algae is linked to change in icebergs and climate.

Do you know of any graph that proves nutrient at the poles is somehow all sourced from icebergs?

Try looking into sewage nutrient pollution from Indian Ocean coasts and waters.
Posted by JF Aus, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 1:23:21 PM
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JF Aus

Quote:

"Scientists have observed an increase in carbon dioxide’s greenhouse effect at the Earth’s surface for the first time. The researchers, led by scientists from the US Department of Energy’s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab), measured atmospheric carbon dioxide’s increasing capacity to absorb thermal radiation emitted from the Earth’s surface over an eleven-year period at two locations in North America. They attributed this upward trend to rising CO2 levels from fossil fuel emissions.

The influence of atmospheric CO2 on the balance between incoming energy from the Sun and outgoing heat from the Earth (also called the planet’s energy balance) is well established. But this effect has not been experimentally confirmed outside the laboratory until now. The research is reported Wednesday, Feb. 25, in the advance online publication of the journal Nature."

I'm wondering; JS Aus, how Lake Poopo in Bolivia dried up? The lake was something like 1,100 square kilometres in size. Also, Lake Titicaca is shrinking. The source of water for these lakes are glaciers, how do glaciers regress?

Just like Anthony Watts from WUWT, you are arguing from an economic viewpoint, quote:

"Climate alarmism nonsense about carbon is slowing down science and business and prosperity worldwide."

Climate science provides disciplines not allied to economics.

The Oceans are warming which have an impact on climate:

http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/01/half-the-oceans-warming-has-come-in-the-last-couple-decades/

Whether climate change is natural or man made, many areas are already being impacted at huge cost. A recent example being the completely out of season flooding of the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers.

What do you plan on pushing for, a business as usual approach only makes it worse.
Posted by ant, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 1:57:12 PM
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