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A royal commission into climate alarmism : Comments

By Rod McGarvie, published 8/12/2015

When will scientists review the underlying assumptions and biases on which their climate change theories and models rely?

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Leo,
you changed the topic. We're not talking models at the moment, right? You raised the "logarithmic relation between atmospheric CO2 content and temperature", right? So for once in your tinfoil hat little life do you want to stay on the subject, and answer the questions put to you?

What does the first half of CO2 do?

What warming do the climatologists say the second half will do?

Why are these numbers so VASTLY different?

If you're not up to answering this question, then just buzz off back to your denialist echo-chamber and have a rant there. You'll hear what you want: your own delusions broadcast back at you. You'll feel much better, and maybe give us a break from these tinfoil hat delusions.
Posted by Max Green, Thursday, 14 January 2016 7:37:37 AM
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You changed the topic, Max, not me. Your “science does not work, so you have no answers.
What else can a fraud supporter with no science to justify his position do. Your ignorance has caught up with you, Max, and I am sure that it is not the first time.
This is what you have to explain, Max:” The cessation of observed global warming for the past decade or so has shown how exaggerated NASA’s and most other computer predictions of human-caused warming have been—and how little correlation warming has with concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide. As many scientists have pointed out, variations in global temperature correlate much better with solar activity and with complicated cycles of the oceans and atmosphere. There isn’t the slightest evidence that more carbon dioxide has caused more extreme weather,” Happer and Schmidt wrote.
Princeton’s Dr. Happer, who has authored 200 peer-reviewed scientific papers, explained in Senate testimony in 2009 that the Earth is currently in a ‘CO2 ‘famine.’ Happer explained to Congress: ”Warming and increased CO2 will be good for mankind…’CO2 is not a pollutant and it is not a poison and we should not corrupt the English language by depriving ‘pollutant’ and ‘poison’ of their original meaning,” Happer added.
“Many people don’t realize that over geological time, we’re really in a CO2 famine now. Almost never has CO2 levels been as low as it has been in the Holocene (geologic epoch) – 280 (parts per million – ppm) – that’s unheard of. Most of the time [CO2 levels] have been at least 1000 (ppm) and it’s been quite higher than that,” Happer told the Senate Committee. “Earth was just fine in those times,” Happer added. “The oceans were fine, plants grew, animals grew fine. So it’s baffling to me that we’re so frightened of getting nowhere close to where we started,” Happer explained.

Read more: http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/05/14/co2-nears-400-ppm-relax-its-not-global-warming-end-times-but-only-a-big-yawn-climate-depot-special-report/#ixzz3xB315SQm
That is what competent scientists say, which is aligned with what happens in the real world. You support the baseless alternate reality, so have to go off topic, and talk childish drivel about tin hats.
Posted by Leo Lane, Thursday, 14 January 2016 11:43:07 AM
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Leo

You say: "...The cessation of observed global warming for the past decade or so...."

How do you explain how in winter 2016 there is a Sub Tropical Storm in the North Atlantic, and the Pacific is catching some action as well?

Quote:
"As we ring in the New Year with record to near-record warm temperatures over much of Earth’s oceans, we are confronted with something that would have been unimaginable a few decades ago: simultaneous January named storms in both the Atlantic and Central Pacific. The earliest named storm on record in the Central Pacific, Hurricane Pali, formed on January 7, and now the Atlantic has joined the early-season hurricane party, with Subtropical Storm Alex spinning up into history with 50 mph winds in the waters about 785 miles south-southwest of the Azores Islands. The average date of the first named storm in the Atlantic is July 9; the Central Pacific also typically sees its first named storm in July...."

From:

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=3222#commenttop

An update on Sub Tropical storm Alex:

http://robertscribbler.com/2016/01/14/alex-now-a-completely-unprecedented-atlantic-hurricane-in-january/

The Japanese Meteorological Agency has provisionally declared 2015 the warmest year ever recorded and 2014 the second warmest year. Nature is poking fun at your comments, Leo.
Posted by ant, Friday, 15 January 2016 6:46:30 AM
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Leo,
dodging *again*?

Logarithmic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we8VXwa83FQ

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php?a=82&p=5

Do make sure you take your meds every day, not just when the moon is singing to you.
Posted by Max Green, Friday, 15 January 2016 7:57:14 AM
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I do not have to dodge your puerile rubbish, Max, it never touches me. It just keeps me aware of your failure in science which you are attempting to hide. It is obvious that you are nailed on the failure of the CO2 science, and make the ridiculous assertion that I am “dodging”. Without science to show a measurable human effect on climate, the answer to your off topic question is completely irrelevant.
You are unable to refer us to science to show any measurable human effect on climate, so persist in supporting the climate fraud on the sole basis of your dishonesty.
Your familiarity with "meds" has lost me. I have never had occasion to use them, or to perceive the "singing of the moon" with which your mental aberrations make you so familiar.
Posted by Leo Lane, Friday, 15 January 2016 4:15:27 PM
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Leo,
yeah, I guess you got me. Global Warming science is so unfounded, so lacking in evidence that every National Academy of science on the entire planet accepts the 'lacking' evidence! As the wiki says:

"Academies of science (general science)[edit]
Since 2001, 34 national science academies, three regional academies, and both the international InterAcademy Council and International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences have made formal declarations confirming human induced global warming and urging nations to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases. The 34 national science academy statements include 33 who have signed joint science academy statements and one individual declaration by the Polish Academy of Sciences in 2007."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change#Statements_by_scientific_organizations_of_national_or_international_standing

34 national science acemies, but only YOU *really* understand the science.
Tinfoil hat much? Back to your meds mate.
(Or am I just feeding the troll? As psychologists tell us about children, negative attention is better than no attention. Is the negative attention you get here better than just being ignored the way you are in the rest of your life? Is that why you're a troll?)
Posted by Max Green, Friday, 15 January 2016 4:20:12 PM
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