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Female opinions count : Comments

By Sarah Russell, published 30/11/2015

The Australian is renowned for both ideological and political uniformity. It is also a national newspaper in which male voices often dominate the opinion pages.

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Esther Vilar wrote "The Manipulated Man"

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"Vilar writes, "Men have been trained and conditioned by women, not unlike the way Pavlov conditioned his dogs, into becoming their slaves. As compensation for their labours men are given periodic use of a woman's vagina." The book contends that young boys are encouraged to associate their masculinity with their ability to be sexually intimate with a woman, and that a woman can control a man by socially empowering herself to be the gate-keeper to his sense of masculinity. In addition, Vilar states that this has happened and has been going on for some time.

The author says that social definitions and norms, such as the idea that women are weak, are constructed by women with their needs in mind. Vilar explains how it works; if women are viewed as weak, less is expected of them therefore they are given more leeway in society than men."

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Posted by Wolly B, Thursday, 3 December 2015 5:38:22 PM
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More wealthy, white woman whinging (such a first world anxiety). You have most of the "Journalist" degrees, use 'em.
Posted by McCackie, Friday, 4 December 2015 7:39:05 AM
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WollyB

Quoting Vilar: 'As compensation for their labours men are given periodic use of a woman's vagina'

Unbelievable in its grotesqueness! Honestly, even after decades of being a feminist, the level of misogyny in so-called 'advanced' Western society - among both men and women - still has the capacity to leave me gobsmacked. How any man could ever hope to have a halfway decent relationship with a woman, while subscribing to such sick views as this - i.e. that male-female relationships are just one big vagina trading market - is anyone's guess. But the MRA movement thrives on this kind of rhetoric and then reserves the right to blame it all on women when their relationships inevitably go belly up.
Posted by Killarney, Friday, 4 December 2015 8:06:29 PM
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Ho hum, more sexist bigotry and hate speech from the feminists, situation normal.

Killarney, how is what you are complaining about any worse than the feminist movements belief that sexism is okay so long as it's feminists doing it to men, that forcing people into sex-specific gender stereotypes backed by aggressive force so long as it's feminists doing it to men, that it's okay to exploit men as money objects, that men are just footstools women to climb up on.

What about your belief that women are entitled to all the protection and support of patriarchy and all the privileges and double standards of feminism?

You believe that, don't you?

If it's about gender equality, provide proof of the activism you have personally taken against the much higher death rate of men at work. Have you sought "gender equality" in that, and if not, why not?

Also what have you personally done to employ more women opinion journalists with your own money?
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Saturday, 5 December 2015 11:55:22 PM
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JKJ

‘Killarney, how is what you are complaining about any worse than the feminist movements belief that sexism is okay so long as it's feminists doing it to men …’

Because it’s not feminists ‘doing it to men’; it’s the patriarchy that is ‘doing it to men’. The higher death tolls among men – from workplace accidents to suicides to road fatalities to the military and war to workaholism – are the product of a patriarchy that pushes men into dangerous an unhealthy activities. Under patriarchal systems, male egos become all bound up in the pursuit of physical dominance, which creates a safety hazard for all men everywhere.

The disclaimer that feminism does not criticise men, but the partriarchal system that conditions men to stereotypical behaviours and attitudes, has been in place for half a century. It’s not feminism’s fault that many men refuse to see it as such.

‘Also what have you personally done to employ more women opinion journalists with your own money?’

Well, I don’t have that much money, but I’m open to suggestions.
Posted by Killarney, Monday, 7 December 2015 2:54:06 AM
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>Quoting Vilar: 'As compensation for their labours men are given periodic use of a woman's vagina'

>Unbelievable in its grotesqueness! Honestly, even after decades of being a feminist, the level of misogyny in so-called 'advanced' Western society

>Posted by Killarney, Friday, 4 December 2015 8:06:29 PM

Esther Vilar is a woman, and I quoted what 'she' wrote.

Not long ago, the idea that was strongly promoted, is that if men did more 'housework' that they would have more luck in the bedroom. So how is this any different from Esther Vilars (a woman) much more blunt writing?
Posted by Wolly B, Monday, 7 December 2015 2:01:46 PM
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