Hi Loudmouth

no offense taken. I dish out as much as I get (shows I don't always follow my conscience).

Strangely enough I doubt anyone ever has tried to defend the miraculous on a scientific basis. You yourself must know that the 'big bang theory'is about as scientific as the sun being halted. In fact it would take far more faith to believe in the big bang than the sun being halted by a supernatural being.

You seem to be a very rational thinker and I would agree with much of what you say on a range of topics. When it comes to design needing a Designer. laws needing a Lawgiver, creation needing a Creator we obviuosly disagree. Cheers

Hi Runner,

I haven't believed in the One Big Bang Theory for a while - rather, that there have been perhaps (and how could anybody prove it?) an infinite number of Big Bangs, all to do with the in-and-out of the Universe, perhaps tens of billions of years each time, expanding and then contracting back to a single point, and then another -BOOM- ! out it goes again, for another few billion years.

If this is so, and if there is a God, then he/she/it certainly must move in mysterious ways. Either way, it's probably unprovable, so it's a matter of belief without evidence. Chacun a son gout :)

Cheers,

Joe

Theology has been surpassed and surplanted