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From Pol Pot to ISIS: the blood never dried : Comments

By John Pilger, published 18/11/2015

By most scholarly measure, Bush and Blair's invasion of Iraq in 2003 led to the deaths of at least 700,000 people - in a country that had no history of jihadism.

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Dear Loudmouth,

You wrote;

“Could there be some connection between the Yanks losing the War in 1975, and their supporting anybody and their dog against the Vietnamese, simply out of spite ?”

A given one would have thought but it is interesting how quickly after discovering that the US did indeed support and fund Pol Pot you seem to be offering mitigation. Nothing can excuse that support especially after the extent of the Killing Fields became common knowledge, but it continued for a decade.

You wrote;

“Assad, for example, is perhaps a second most worst enemy of humanity, so, ghastly as it is, Assad has to be supported against ISIS, for now.”

Why is he the second worst? He has killed at least 5 times (probably closer to 10) the number of humans than ISIS. Many with chemical weapons, napalm, barrel and cluster bombs. He has tortured to death in his notorious prisons literally thousands upon thousands of Syrians. I consider him a greater evil than ISIS, why don't you? Pretty simple really, because he doesn't directly threaten you.

So when you write;

“It's a lesson to all of us that opportunism is never in short supply, and that if our stances are worth anything at all, they have to be based on some defensible set of principles.”

you might want to take the lesson to heart.

You might find this little take on Turkey's motives interesting;

http://atimes.com/2015/11/and-heres-the-top-ten-terrorist-list-escobar/
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 21 November 2015 11:24:07 PM
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Hi Steele,

I'm certainly not 'mitigating' anything the US has done, simply trying to get through that opportunists come in all shades, that both 'Left' and Right often display a total lack of principle in their dirty anything-will-do 'politics', which I term SUTA politics. I was trying to highlight the obscenity of Reagan and Bush shielding what were supposed to be extremely progressive ra-ra communists, in their spiteful opposition to anything that the Vietnamese were doing.

Both the Yanks and the Chinese knew what the Khmer Rouge had been doing, and from memory of the time, the KR were sending troops into Vietnam from 1977 or so, into what was called the Parrot's Beak just above the Mekong and forty-odd miles from Saigon, which was the eventual trigger for the Vietnamese invasion.

I supported the Vietnamese then for that, and still do, but I'm very critical some of their policies, their treatment of political prisoners and ex-ARVN soldiers, and their obtuseness over the Paracels (recognise the obvious rights of the Philippines, Brunei and Malaysia, for example). So much for 'mitigating' the opportunists.

As for Assad and Syria, can you understand that, yes, as soon as ISIS is defeated, Assad's clock will be ticking ? That the situation is so complex and many-sided that it would be idiotic to take on all the bad guys at once ? Assad's time will come, don't worry.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 22 November 2015 7:59:02 AM
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I am very happy that you just don't get it Steelie.

I don't have to refute your crazy conspiracy theories. I can just let them stand and allow others to judge you for the loony you are. Please, please, Steelie. I want you, Arjay. David F, David G, and Susieoncrack to keep it up. You and your comrades are the best arguments we have.

Some things you have not tried yet.

Princess Diana was killed by MI6.

9/11 was the work of the Joos.

The CIA shot down that Russian airliner.

Although, Arjay has already beaten you to the punch by claiming that ISIS was created by the USA. Too slow, Steelie. You are going to have to be quicker off the mark submitting your delusions to OLO. Arjay has a deeper psychosis than you, and he is the present champion.

Well done, Arjay. You get this weeks coveted eggbeater award.
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 23 November 2015 6:57:35 PM
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Dear LEGO,

Lol.

Sorry mate it must be difficult when you need interpreting but I'm happy to help you out this time.

Your quote – what you really mean.

“I don't have to refute your crazy conspiracy theories.” - 'I have nothing to refute the arguments you have put to me.'

“I can just let them stand and allow others to judge you” - 'I also have zero arguments of my own but have to resort to platitudes and pontifications'.

“You and your comrades are the best arguments we have.” - 'I am unlikely to have any arguments to put in the future either'.

“Some things you have not tried yet.” - 'The best I can do is offer some quirky stuff in an admittedly rather weak attempt to taint yours with the same brush.'

well young chap, do let me know if you need assistance in the future.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 23 November 2015 8:00:05 PM
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For the edification of the doubters. Here are 42 Govt false flag events officially accepted as fact. False flags are crimes initiated by our Govts to bring about their political objectives.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/42falseflags.php#axzz3sC7MdFa0
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 23 November 2015 9:20:22 PM
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