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Islamic State appeal really isn’t radical at all : Comments

By David Martin Jones, published 16/11/2015

But what does deradicalisation mean and does it really address Islamic State’s sophisticated ideological messaging?

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I agree with David Jones's premise, that young Muslims are not being "radicalised." To think that young Muslim men are becoming "radicalised" to an extreme version of Islam, is to ignore the fact that Islam has always been an extreme religion. The only reason why Muslims were not so radical at the beginning of Islamic immigration into western countries, is because it was obviously unwise to be too aggressive and dangerous when your numbers were in a very small minority.

One thing is clear, the more Muslims within the population in any western society, the more problems you have with Muslims.

Our governments are not looking at the real problem. The problem is Islam itself. It is a very violent and aggressive religion that is totally intolerant of any person who is not a Muslim. This has been banged into their heads by their Muslim teachers, their parents, and their evil imams, in the same way that the Hitler Youth were programmed, and they were Adolph Hitler's most staunch supporters. We never spoke of young Nazis being "radicalised" into an extreme form of Nazism. We knew that they were dangerous extremists because they were Nazis.

Every human being has a deep psychological need for a positive personnel identity and also for a positive social identity. The Islamic religion preaches that any man who wants a deeply respected personal and social identity can get it by being a warrior for God. Young Muslim men can not integrate into western society because of many reasons. Their religion forbids it. Their Muslim cultural values are diametrically opposed to western cultural values. They have been conditioned by their Imams to accept Islam uncritically and unquestionably. What is worse, is that stupid lefties have reinforced the idea in their heads that western society is utterly evil, by their constant attacks upon their own culture and civilisation.

Convinced by their state and religious teachers that western society is utterly corrupt, and unable to even think about the failures of Islam, they instead occupy a parallel universe where their self esteem is linked to being a Jihadi.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 3:12:44 AM
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Ponder, don't be fooled by spin from this closet communists article. He's quietly promoting a fanatical, extreme cult called secular, left wing religion. Communism is the most destructive, extreme religion in world history.

Better to go with moderate, enlightened, classically liberal, conservative, protesting Christianity & the Philosophy they created called common sense realism.

http://www.britannica.com/topic/philosophy-of-common-sense

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Common_Sense_Realism

https://bible.org/article/relationship-common-sense-realism-dispensationalism%E2%80%99s-hermeneutics-and-ia-priorii-faith-comm

1,270,000 results on a standard Google search
https://www.google.com.au/webhp?ei=GAZKVre8A4HQmAXyyZfwBw&ved=0CAUQqS4oAw#q=common+sense+realism

runner, correct, are you in Brisbane?

Cobber the hound, lying for your Prophet Marx & your God Lucifer as usual. Secularism exceeded the entire 6,000 year death toll of Judeo/Christianity in just 4 years in just one nation. You are the most evil sub human animal in world history, a communist. NO Australian child will be safe until filth like you are in labour camps for the term of your natural lives.

Rhosty, correct & left wing religion is even worse.

Cobber the hound, your posts just confirm what we all think, not possible for a loyal, brain washed cult member like you to make a rational contribution to any topic.

onthebeach, it is even worse than your bleak assessment, because these 100% evil left wing animals wanted to destroy the land of OZ by deliberately importing more & worse criminals. The only thing stopping me from supporting the LNP is knowing they are almost as bad as lie-bore & the watermelons. if the LNP does not wake up really quickly another One Nation is going to take millions of baby boomer votes away from all 4 major mistakes parties.

ttbn, i hear you, but if we simply deport ALL muslims from ALL non muslim nations back to their own muslim nations & build a new iron curtain around them all, then peaceful coexistence might be possible.

imajulianutter, your plan would work better if every muslim on earth, not currently living on the Arabian peninsula was moved back to Arabia first.

Jay Of Melbourne, correct, the real radical extremist is the scumbag who wrote this article & his cheer squad who want US living in 1984 when deporting ALL muslims would cure the problem permanently.
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 3:35:34 AM
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Daffy Duck, why would any sensible person waste one second of their time to read an article written by a communist & recommended by another communist when they know in advance that the whole thing is Orwellian new speak?

http://www.marxmail.org/msg135236.html

http://www.thenation.com/article/what-i-discovered-from-interviewing-isis-prisoners/

mikk, sorry but Jews & Christians did NOT cause this problem, it was 100% caused by atheistic, left wing religion & islam.

runner, correct again.

Hasbeen, spot on, time to grease our bullets & barrels with pig fat.

diver dan, the communists are just as bad, ALL terrorism in world history was left wing or islamic.

Daffy Duck, your right for once, Jones is another 100% evil communist like you.

diver dan, again, yes Daffy Duck the communist secretly loves his islamist brothers in the war against his own nation.

LEGO, accurate, perfect assessment, loony leftie communists are even worse than the muslims they import. The Nazis were at least patriotic to their own nations, almost angelic in comparison to muslims & communists.
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 4:11:28 AM
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