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Security Council permanent members herald armed action against Islamic State : Comments

By David Singer, published 5/11/2015

International co-operation to defeat Islamic State through a Security Council Resolution authorising the use of armed force had previously risked being vetoed by either Russia or America.

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#Yuyutsu

You state:
"As I prioritise what to read, I would tend to select articles containing "Israel", but deselect articles whose title begins with the word "Obama" - after all, what have I to do with those Americans?"

Funny thing - You read one of my articles titled "Obama admits defeat on renewed negotiations for two-state solution" and commented on it.

Your claim to deselect articles beginning with the word "Obama" is false and misleading.

You managed to definitely read another one of my articles whose title included"Obama":
"Unscrambling the mandates omelette guarantees more egg on Obama's face"
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=16748

In that article I wrote:
"ISIL has already declared an Islamic State in large parts of Syria and Iraq exceeding the area of Great Britain - - expelling or butchering Christian and other religious communities who have lived there for centuries. ISIL has been repelled in Lebanon and also threatens Jordan."

I also quoted a statement by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu:
"… everywhere we look, militant Islam is on the march. It's not militants. It's not Islam. It's militant Islam.

Typically, its first victims are other Muslims, but it spares no one. Christians, Jews, Yazidis, Kurds – no creed, no faith, no ethnic group is beyond its sights. And it's rapidly spreading in every part of the world."

You expressed no concern then for getting rid of Islamic State or showed the slightest interest in the welfare of the Yazidis or Kurds.

Your current statements posted in response to this latest article cannot therefore be seen to be sincere or made in good faith:
"My hope and aim is to clear up Daesh - not to clear up legalities.To ensure that they are wiped off the face of the earth - not to ensure that efforts of whatever kind are made."
and
"Sorry, but I care for the Yazidis and the Kurds just as well."

I repeat - have you anywhere else in any post on any occasion expressed those feelings of concern - or are they empty words devoid of any meaning or feeling?

Trustyu Yuyutsu?

Not likely
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 8 November 2015 6:09:59 PM
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Dear David,

The title of the first article that you mentioned contained "two-state solution": that expression, especially when coming from you, obviously wasn't about Sudan, Canada, Belgium or Korea, but about Israel, so I was interested. My response there had to do with Israel and didn't mention Obama.

In the second article, "Israel" and "Netanyahu" were quite eye-catching at the top, so I probably tried to skim it for more references to Israel, then kept the comments open on that account. I'm pretty sure however that I never completed reading it because even now I find it so boring and I won't even attempt to understand that egg-metaphor. I then remained silent on the article and only commented when I saw your reply to Rhrosty, with your signature: "This means direct negotiations between Jordan and Israel".

Your reply to Rhrosty was already mostly off-topic and I admit that I followed it completely off-topic without even bothering to read the original article. As it angered me that you wish to punish Israel and Jordan by dumping that cursed territory on them (either singly or jointly), I replied with "Why not China?".

So here is my position regarding the ideal situation in the Middle-East:

Daesh - non-existent.
Iran - Islamic regime overturned.
Kurdistan - prosperous over northern Syria and Iraq.
Iraq - peaceful and harmonious relations between Sunnis and Shiites (within remaining area).
Saudi Arabia - King issues vast reforms, including freedom for women and other religions.
Syria - Assad confined to the Alawaite north-west, Kurdish in north-east, independent/democratic new state in the south.
Lebanon - Hezbollah gone, Christians and Druze live without fear.
Jordan - prosperous under the wise rule of King Abdullah, may he live forever.
Israel - prosperous, strong and peaceful within exactly its pre-1967 borders.
So-called "Palestine" (including Eastern Jerusalem) - surrounded by a big wall over the 1967 green-line on its west, south and north and the Jordan river on its east. Within that cursed zone, let the Jewish settlers and the local Arabs do what they like and let it be none of anybody else's business.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 4:13:05 PM
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#Yuyutsu

You failed to answer this question:

"I repeat - have you anywhere else in any post on any occasion expressed those feelings of concern - or are they empty words devoid of any meaning or feeling?"

Please answer this question.
Posted by david singer, Saturday, 14 November 2015 12:28:58 PM
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Dear David,

Those concerns for the victims of violence and cruelty are uncontroversial and shared by all.

I probably haven't express them explicitly on OLO just as one doesn't have to explicitly write "the sun is shining".
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 14 November 2015 9:52:05 PM
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