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Paying the problem: Australia and the people smuggling industry : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 2/11/2015

Nothing can get away from the fact that markets to move people find form when regulations restricting movement exist. As borders tighten, the market for people smugglers improves.

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ttbn, Hasbeen, correct again,

Peter King, so you are proud of Muslims taking jobs away from Aboriginal & White Australians? nice

Save Qantas, let them arrive by boat then fly them home.
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Monday, 2 November 2015 5:35:17 PM
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Peter
Stats from the "6250.0 - Characteristics of Recent Migrants, Australia, Nov 2010" on the Australian Bureau of Statistics web site.

Stats recorded before the influx of over 55,000 illegal boat people on 884 boats arriving on our shores during the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd debacle.

Let's re-visit this report 10 years down the track and compare specifically stats for welfare payment increases and other benefits continuing to be paid by Australian Taxpayers.

Report will provide Australian Taxpayers with further info as to where our "tax dollars" being spent.
Posted by SAINTS, Monday, 2 November 2015 6:33:18 PM
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Peter King,

I didn't "attribute" the figures to anything; certainly not The Australian. I was referring to official stats. Clean yourself up before to tell me what to do.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 2 November 2015 9:32:38 PM
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It appears that no one on here knows what happened.
The vessel concerned was on its way to New Zealand.
When intercepted the crew told the Captain that as they were on a
voyage not to Australia and the navy could not legally interfere with them.
This I suspect is true.
However would it be likely that such a vessel would be capable of a
Trans Pacific voyage ? For that was what they were undertaking.
For the sake of humanity it was reasonable to bribe the crew to return to Indonesia.

It would be one thing to go fishing around Indonesia but a voyage
across a large slice of the Pacific is another matter altogether.

What say you Hasbeen ? You have been there done that !
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 2 November 2015 10:31:44 PM
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Peter King - You probably believed the Labor government when they claimed on March 1st 2013 that ''a handful'' - or five or less - refugees had been charged with a crime.

They conveniently forgot to mention they following ones.
1) In Australia, 71 asylum seekers have had their community release revoked by the government, including ten who were charged with criminal offenses, eight who were found to be national security threats by ASIO and 12 who absconded.

2) A Sri Lankan man accused of murdering his girlfriend before fleeing to Australia on an asylum boat was released into the community on a bridging visa in 2012.

3) Four people in community detention have been charged with animal cruelty, theft and assault, while four on bridging visas have been charged with stalking, custody of a knife, and assaults.

4) Police have been called to asylum seeker housing five times over assaults from November 2011 to December last year. Four asylum seekers living in the community have since absconded and are yet to be found.

5) In detention centers across Australia, asylum seekers who have not had their refugee claims processed since the government began a "no advantage" policy in August have been involved in 56 critical incidents and 155 major incidents in two months to October.

6) 18 had their residence determination cancelled on behavioral grounds between October 2010 and December last year.

7) Alleged offenses include a mugging at knife point by a group of asylum seekers, indecent assaults, drunken behavior and cases of domestic violence which have not been pursued by the victims.

8) At least ten asylum seekers released into the community have been charged with crimes including a mugging at knife point.
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 2 November 2015 11:50:06 PM
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Continued

9) Asylum seekers convicted over detention center riots in March 2011 have been granted protection visas by the government and allowed to stay in Australia. Four of seven people convicted had their refugee applications considered on character grounds, which allows the government to reject refugees who engage in criminal behavior, and were granted a protection visa allowing them to stay. Only one has been removed, another is set to be kicked out and a third is in the community on a bridging visa.

These figures do not include approx 20 that have escaped from detention facilities in the last 2 weeks.

Since I posted these figure in may 2013 the number of crimes by refugees is very high.

Now what do you have to say about Government figure and what they say.
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 2 November 2015 11:53:59 PM
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