Is medical care in Nauru better than it is in the 3rd world nations that the refugees came from?

Don't know what the health care is like; don't care. The illegals should not be there, and we should not be paying for them. These sneaky bludgers were trying to muscle in on our welfare system: they failed, but they are still costing us millions, thanks to our spineless politicians paying homage to the corrupt UN.

Is medical care on Nauru better than the third world these people come from? I certainly hope so giving what we are paying for it!

In any event how can we the mugs out there in mugsville know if we are never ever allowed to actually know what is being done in our name there! Whether we approve or not!

For mine it is beyond scandalous that an already hugely disadvantaged human being can be summarily raped, with apparent impunity? Routinely refused adequate treatment and then denied what should be basic human rights whatever place you come from or the manner of your arrival!

Would you accept that for your mum, your sister or daughter! By all men repatriate economic migrants, but treat them like actual human beings while in our care.

For evil to prosper good men only need stand and do nothing!

Were I a doctor on Nauru, I'd document and release all that is being done there in our name, by folks seemingly without a still operating moral compass, but what is expediente, and appeals to the lowest common denominator?

Sadly some of this calloused indifference stuff would be par for the course for many of us, were this the 1940's and the escapees Jews fleeing Nazi Germany.

I seem to remember the medical care there was pretty substandard as well, for folks who just happened to have the wrong genes, ethnicity or sexual orientation!

One only needs to look at the troubled Middle East to know full well, there is an evil entity alive and well in this world and currently able to pull too many strings on the servile puppets who do its bidding?

We need to claim back our humanity! We are not Nazi's or anything remotely like them!

Sure we can return or resettle folks without needing to engage in all this secrecy?

If we want to condone what is being done in our name then surely there's a case for knowing what it is?

Rather than allowing vote hunting politicians to effectively tell us, trust me I'm a politician!
Rhrosty.

ttbn, too right, most swinging voters want neither offshore processing or resettlement as the cost is enormous. we want them detained on shore for a few hours or days until there is an outgoing flight to take them back home ASAP.

Rhosty, i agree with much of what you said but recall your own tale of health care in the land of OZ & the major cause of less quality health care being available to us, is the money we currently waste on creating poverty in the third world.

Well I don't know for sure, but I think it is probably too good.

I do know I have been waiting for just over 3 years now, to get to see a specialist to evaluate my knee for a replacement. I guess they hope I'll die before I see one, & they can claim the case is closed.

I reckon we should have waited 3 years before examining that woman. No reason they should get faster treatment than us. Bet she wouldn't have needed an abortion if we had.

1. Perhaps concentrating all the inmates at the Manus Island "Hilton" would be better.

2. Perhaps there should be No Rape and No Murder clauses in the contracts for companies making $$millions operating the camps.

I don't know about anyone else I'm sick and tired of people complaining about medical care and other benefits accorded to these asylum seekers. They come to our country, some illegally, others quite deceitfully, and drain every single benefit from us they can. And we're dupable and naive enough to repeatedly accede to their every demand ! Why, because we're terrified of that morally corrupt mob the United Nations.

Some years back when I was shift sergeant in general duties, I got my squad to cruise the parks and reserves of inner Sydney and it's environs. Whereupon we'd find many of our older citizens, those poor forgotten souls, who through no fault of their own, are consigned to oblivion.

Most had no choice but to sleep rough in these parks, consequently becoming easy prey to gangs of marauding youth roaming unchecked through these places. So why doesn't government look after these destitute people ? Give them even 'a quarter of the benefits' these asylum seekers get ! After all, aren't they legitimate Australians who's only problem is, some reversal they've had in their lives that caused them to lead an appalling existence of vagrancy, impoverishment and privation ?

From my albeit relatively brief exposure to many of these people, they'd be extremely grateful, over the moon even, for 'anything extra' the government might consider giving them, starting with just a rudimentary roof over their heads, during the winter months ?

To the asylum seekers, if you're not happy with what, we the Australian taxpayer are giving you, get the hell out of our country, your whinging bastards, and be quick about it !

If we are detaining innocent people indefinitely without trial we have an obligation to ensure they have adequate medical treatment

Hi Rhian

You need to understand that once two government health bureaucracies spend $millions on Nauruan health their job is done. Whether it results in a health improvement outcome is a totally different issue.

You should at least be impressed by Yes Minister's hospital without patients!

As Kellie's fine article indicates "we've provided $26 million to help refurbish the Nauruan hospital....According to the Aid Program Performance Report 2013-14 the Australian Government did agree to refurbish the Nauru hospital following a fire in August 2013, and immediately after the fire Australia reallocated $1.2 million of funding to restock all pharmaceuticals.."

As Australia is working with an island built on Guano, presided over by a largely non-resident, clueless Nauruan leadership with more bank accounts than Shorten's union mates in Melbourne, what do you expect?

Kellie's at it again! Bashing Australia.
Let us stop any payment to lawyers for any appearance they make in the courts for any of these bludgers and the problem will disapear immediately.
i listened to the ABC recording and felt the woman was an obvious fraud. I bet if she is ever checked that the child will have a Somali Father rather than a Naruan.
Hey let's do that and we can soon find the Naruan rapist or maybe not?
These people have no shame they will fabricate and lie to us backed by the sleazy legal profession who are being paid millions of our taxpayer dollars.

Hi Plantagenet

You say:

“As Australia is working with an island built on Guano, presided over by a largely non-resident, clueless Nauruan leadership with more bank accounts than Shorten's union mates in Melbourne, what do you expect”

I agree. Even with a large spend, the chances of Australia delivering an adequate health service for detainees on Nauru are pretty small. Which is one of many reasons why we shouldn’t be detaining people there

What is an acceptable level of care? More or less than Aussies enjoy?

We are reponsible for these people's welfare. We should give them the same level of health care as they would get if they were detained in in Australia, which is about the same as an Australian in prison would get.

If this lady alleges she was raped - then why haven't we heard anything about any investigation/s? Was alleged rape reported to police? According to Special Counsel from Shine Lawyers 7.30 pm interview, this lady couldn't get out of her bed since 3 September until two weeks ago and she was dehydrated. Alleged rape to have been in August. So are we to believe she didn't report alleged rape to anyone, nor did she eat any food since August/September, and no one noticed she hadn't left her bed (if this is the alleged assertion) ..... mmmmmmm Oh and I do have many more questions .......

Thankfully she apparently changed her mind and did not have her child murdered. One big plus in her favour.

Australia has laws against animal-cruelty: nobody is forced to have a pet, but if you do then you may not starve them or deny them reasonable veterinary care.

Don't arrest those people in the first place - then you won't have to pay their medical expenses!

just deport them immediately ASAP.

Just leave them alone!

If they drown then let them drown, if they starve then let them starve, if they manage somehow to arrive then let them be, but without any rights or a legal recognition and status as humans.

In other words, if you have no heart then you may treat them as animals - but not worse than animals.

Yuyutsu, thank you for proving my point. your way of doing things is creating poverty & worsening their torture.

Dear Imacentristmoderate,

Hunting people at sea, then either locking them up or deporting them, creates poverty of spirit. Unless you interfere, whatever those people suffer is of their own making. If you want to help them - then help them, otherwise leave them alone.

Yuyutsu, thank you again, leaving them alone after they have been deported is exactly what i plan to do.

Dear Imacentristmoderate,

That's nice of you, yet I plan to leave them alone even earlier, so they would be neither captured nor deported in the first place.

Yuyutsu, why do you hate your children so much? what have they ever done to you?

Kellie Tranter and her friends seem to think that the entire third world has a human right to barge into her country, and if the majority of Australians oppose that, she and her friends do not care. Why she thinks that is a complete mystery. Perhaps she thinks that he own people are greedy, and they must do more to help the ever increasing numbers of poor people in countries with out-of-control birth rates? But with 100 million people being born every year, mostly in already over populated and very poor countries, how even bringing 100 million into Australia is going to achieve anything other than one years respite is something she and her friends do not want to think about.

Anyhoo, Kellie wants everybody who wants to come to Australia, to come.

With the example of Europe and Kevin Rudd as examples of what not to do to encourage illegal immigration, even the stupid Labor Party now agrees with off shore processing. Problem solved, as far as the Aussie taxpayer is concerned. So Kellie and her comrades have a problem. Kellie and her comrades have to keep thinking up novel reasons why offshore processing is wrong. They have tried pretending that the illegal immigrants all want to commit suicide, they have tried pretending that the guards are cruel, that the food is unacceptable, and the conditions deplorable, to no avail.

The next ploy is think up ways to get illegal immigrants into Australia on medical grounds where their lawyers can hopefully get at them, and then have a friendly judge demand that Australia abide by it's refugee obligations. But that does not seem to be working either. And the whole sorry episode with the pregnant Somali woman who said she wanted an abortion, looks to be a try on by people like Kellie.

If you are wondering why regional hospitals in Australia are third world standard, Kellie, it is probably because our government has no money left after squandering it on 13,000 "refugee" places every year, as well as throwing away $5 billion dollars a year on overseas aid.

Thank you Leggo for your post.

You have summed up basically everything.

This lady has been "allegedly" raped - a horror to any female.

However, we still have not heard any report to as the "allegation of rape" being filed with any police official, or her special counsel filing such claims in assisting client...why not??

Any offence of "alleged rape" should be considered as a priority in filing a/any claim against her perpetrator/perpetrators ......

So, does her legal representative just "flick off" this allegation, or has all of this been a "beat up" for publicity.

I don't know and have no idea......this situation seems totally shameful to me as a female.

Lego

For a rich country like Australian caring for 13,000 refugees is a drop in the bucket. Turkey, a far poorer country, houses more than 1.5 million refugees at present.

Regardless of whether you support offshore detention or not, if we are locking people up, we have a responsibility to care for them.

Rhian, why do "we have a responsibility to care for them"? says who?

ima
Because we are locking them up. A person exercising authority, especially coercive authority, over another person has a legal and moral duty of care towards them.

Rhian, problem solved, re-unite families, deport them.

Not all I think. But it seems to be sort of reasonable.