The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Iraq exacerbates America-Russia standoff on destroying Islamic State > Comments

Iraq exacerbates America-Russia standoff on destroying Islamic State : Comments

By David Singer, published 9/10/2015

America and its 62 nation coalition is becoming increasingly isolated and irrelevant as Russia maintains its airstrikes in Syria

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. Page 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. All
Putin has achieved in a couple of weeks what the USA pretends to achieve in 13 mths. The truth is ISIS is a USA/Zionist creation being used to bring Assad down. Syria and Iran are allies of Russia and Western war mongers still want their totalitarian New World Order.

The real worry is than Israel that is owned by the Rothschild banking cabal ,will in desperation,bring on a nuclear WW3.300 yrs of debt money counterfeiting is the source of their evil power. Will it end with a bang or a whimper ?
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 10 October 2015 6:43:06 PM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Thanks Arjay for injecting some humour into this serious discussion. Loved that non sequitur about Israel :)

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 10 October 2015 7:54:00 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Arjay,
"Putin has achieved in a couple of weeks what the USA pretends to achieve in 13 mths."

Its not over yet, not by a long shot.
My fear is that its really only just the beginning.

I don't think the US is going to give in on Assad.
I see both sides trying to get military leverage to force the other into a more preferable negotiating position, but it could be a fools game since I'm not sure either is willing to give in.

CIA just sent the rebels 500 anti tank TOW missile systems.

We know there's been a long term strategy to destabilize M/E nations.
These actions may be the US defending the petrodollar and US economy.

I think Russia was forced to act because ISIS was already selling cheap oil (To Erdogan's son apparently) and together with Saudi Arabia were undermining the oil market, and pipelines from Saudi Arabia to Europe through Syria would challenge Russian economic interests as well.

The Russian intervention's turned the tides on the ground to some extent.
(Assad's forces lost 10 tanks and other support vehicles from the TOWS in a battle on the outskirts of Hama a couple days ago.)

The FSA were expecting a no-fly zone (done as part of US deals with Turkey to use Incirlik Air base) and thats off the table because the Russian's have established their own no-fly zone with the Moskva's S-300 systems.

They're feeling hung out to dry and are asking for supplies which is probably why they got the TOW's.

Russia has also been testing out its electronic weapons systems
(It demoralised the crew of the Donald Cook last year when a Sukhoi 24M armed with 'Khibiny' shut down the cruisers AEGIS systems in the Black Sea).
The Sukhoi 34's with 'Khibiny' are apparently able to mess with US fighters targeting systems.

I expect US officials are trying to make deals with China over the South China Sea in order to keep them out of the crisis.
Their carrier's been docked in Tartus for several weeks, their Shenyang J-15's are expected anytime.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 10 October 2015 9:29:57 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Israel stands to gain if Assad goes by cutting military supplies from Iran to Hezbollah and probably doing so will probably reduce support for the Palestinians.

But I think one of the big things is $ ka-ching AFEK oil who I mentioned in one of Davids threads a few weeks ago who have now just released news of their massive oil discovery in the Golan Heights, and remember investors include Jacob Rothschild, Rupert Murdoch and Dick Cheney.
http://www.ibtimes.com/israel-oil-discovery-massive-reserve-could-meet-domestic-demand-obstacles-production-2130639
I think deals may have been done with Israel and Saudi Arabia over this oil, as I heard its in a deeper layer than the Saudi oil and may actually be able to tap into the Saudi reserves.

Is it just a coincidence that news of this oil discovery occurs right at a point where Assad's regime looked like it faced certain defeat?
I'm not sure.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/how-islamist-rebels-engineered-israel-s-oil-grab-syria-740568063
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 10 October 2015 9:57:37 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Yep that was a really good blog article Geoff of Perth.
I heard the patients were burning in their beds in the strikes on the hospital.
Apparently it really was a completely blatent attack and a true war crime.
And he forgot Victoria Nuland (F' the EU) who's also usually off trying to organise the takedown of some foreign country.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 10 October 2015 10:30:34 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Here is some more interesting takes on the situation in the ME

http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-russian-intervention-exposes-coalition-lies-the-terrorists-r-us/5480359 and,

http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-the-u-s-owns-the-rise-of-islamic-state-and-the-syria-disaster/5480948

Geoff
Posted by Geoff of Perth, Sunday, 11 October 2015 2:16:36 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. Page 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy