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Iraq exacerbates America-Russia standoff on destroying Islamic State : Comments

By David Singer, published 9/10/2015

America and its 62 nation coalition is becoming increasingly isolated and irrelevant as Russia maintains its airstrikes in Syria

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Geoff of Perth, spot on, who would have thought we would see America ruled by an atheist, communist dictator & Russia led by a christian, conservative capitalist?

Plantagenet, still flying the red flag of your religion leftism & supporting your muslim brotherhood.
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Saturday, 10 October 2015 7:08:13 AM
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Geoff, thanks for the link. Hugely enjoyable but also right on the button. If only our msm had the cojones to publish something like this.
Posted by James O'Neill, Saturday, 10 October 2015 10:31:15 AM
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Hi Poida & Nickanick,

I must be getting old and thicker, but what the hell are you talking bout ? if it's meant to be extreme sarcasm, or crazy-talk, riddles, puzzles within puzzles, then you've succeeded.

There's a couple of minutes of my life never to be retrieved.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 10 October 2015 12:04:10 PM
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Dis is like "Dear John" letter Joe

"or crazy-talk, riddles, puzzles within puzzles" is correct.

That Vladimir "Poopsie" Putin's Russian ultra-violence is better than any other Syria-side just show's he gotta righteous spirit to turn Damascus into Stalingrad a la Clockwork Orange...

Putin's Caspian cruise missiles are bigger than Obama's anyday Nya! Nya! even if they do hit Iran umm mostly - a lil miss between comrades kapish?

Yours

Poida
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Posted by plantagenet, Saturday, 10 October 2015 2:37:44 PM
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I suppose we all need the balm of idiocy in the midst of such complexity.

So: out there in the real world, Russia is wiping out the non-ISIS opposition to Assad's dictatorship. Once they have been destroyed and/or dispersed, will the Russians then attack ISIS ? Perhaps not: they will more likely each launch separate attacks on the Kurds than on each other.

But sooner or later, the Russians will have to face ISIS, and in both Syria and Iraq (although maybe they'll leave the Iraq job to the Iranians). After all, until they defeat ISIS, can the Russians withdraw ? Would they leave Assad to ISIS ? Wouldn't that defeat their reason for supporting Assad in the first place, and for strengthening their hold on naval and air bases in western Syria ? So, now that they are in, they are in for the long haul. And then there's Turkey.

So will it become another Afghanistan for the Russians ? Another Vietnam ? Not to mention the possibility that, when the Taliban take over Afghanistan next year, Afghanistan could become another of Russia's Afghanistans, degas view all over again. Not to mention the spread of Islamist terrorism into central Asia and into Russia's backyard. And into its Caucasus.

Can Putin fight wars on three fronts - Ukraine, Syria AND central Asia, including Afghanistan ? Well, four fronts, if Georgia decides to exert its right to reclaim the areas which Russia invaded back in 2008. Oh, and Crimea. And the Caucasus.

And if the Taliban morphs into ISIS-in-Central-Asia (ISISCA), what might its influence be on paranoid Pakistan ? By that time, the Beef Wars in India will have hotted up and they would have great larks getting stuck into each other.

Isn't it fun to be a spectator of all of this ? Just so long as it doesn't spread to Indonesia ......

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 10 October 2015 4:54:10 PM
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Hi Joe "Loudmouth"

Putin is shrewder than previous demented (Andropov and Brezhnev) or drunken (Yeltsin) Russian leaders.

I'm afraid Russia (and Assad) will eventually make a mutual non-interference agreement with ISIS while they all roll up the Western backed anti-Assad forces (including Kurds in Syria).

After that Assad/Russia vs ISIS may come to more understandings on territorial and oil revenue rights.

It is Obama, his Coalition and fake moderates who will be the suckers again, expensively, as in Iraq (2003-2010) and Afghanistan (2001- present day).

Winners in the Middle East are all "dance with the Devil" types. Reagan understood that and did well.

Cheers

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Saturday, 10 October 2015 5:16:03 PM
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