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United Nations bedazzled by Abbas word wizardry : Comments
By David Singer, published 6/10/2015PLO Chairman Mahmoud Abbas's speech to the UN General Assembly last week contained a concoction of half-truths and outright lies that everyone listening to him should question.
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Posted by david singer, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 9:09:37 PM
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I think there's some basis to say the Balfour Declaration should be null and void.
Not only that, I think the foolishness of these kids of deals is still being demonstrated in the Middle East today. When the land was still under the control of the Ottoman Empire, Zionists did a deal to obtain the land in Palestine from the British. There is nothing right about this from a Palestinian perspective. It was never the British Empires land to give. And look where this kind of backwards thinking has us today: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/politics/2013/08/saudi-russia-putin-bandar-meeting-syria-egypt.html# Paragraph - Syria First "In the future, Syria will be ruled by a moderate and democratic regime that will be directly sponsored by us and that will have an interest in understanding Russia's interests and role in the region." Keyword: SPONSORED All these wars in the name of regime change are unconscionable. Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 4:43:24 AM
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Regime change was done by Cretan Philistines, Joshua and the Anglicans.
Jewish Virtual library says "Palestine" is from peleshet, which appears 250 times in Tanakh, as the Canaanite people of today's Israel. The British mandate included Jordan and Israel in Palestine. Logically , Israel can be a Jordanian province of Canaan. Or Jordan can be an Israeli district in Arab Palestine. Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 6:10:55 AM
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Getting scared now arent you singer.
Wont be long and the genocidal, apartheid theocracy that is israel will be no more. Sad really you had the chance to build a great country but just couldnt help yourselves with land theft, murder, oppression and ethnic cleansing. Not to mention the extreme military overreactions recently. The government policy of revenge. Government backed, supported and protected fundamentalists prepared to kill in their gods name. Did you really think the world was going to let you get away with it? We wont and israel is going the same way South Africa did. Bye bye nasty apartheid rogue state. Posted by mikk, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 6:20:20 AM
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Singer is, without doubt, the most boring contributor to the Forum.
Every week almost, he presents another tedious rant which tries to rewrite history, which tries to justify the existence of Israel, and its never-ending brutality and barbarism against the Palestinians. With his warped lawyer's mind and his obsession with promoting the bizarre Jewish cause, he dreams up this tack, or that, while, never once, does he admit to any wrongdoing by the murdering, religious fanatics that he supports so enthusiastically. People argue with him but he just sings his discordant, moronic one note song, one of outstanding mediocrity, and ignores all those who disagree with him. Isn't it time he took a sabbatical? Posted by David G, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 11:18:48 AM
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David I do not need to provide references, you are not the school teacher.
There is plenty of evidence of the nation/country of Palestine, whether the written word and more importantly on plenty of genuine maps, just Google "Maps of Palestine" to see the evidence. Additionally, the Russian entry into Syria has just guaranteed "the Greater Israel" plan has just gone out the window, how sad, too bad and thank our lucky stars that monster has gone awry. Zionists, the neocons in the U.S. congress, and the Israli government are floundering with no policy to deal with Putin, the only man with ethics in the whole sad ME saga, and about time to. Posted by Geoff of Perth, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 12:07:41 PM
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Can you guess what could possibly be the "revisionist rubbish" in the above translations in Part 1 above and in the translations of Exodus 15:14 which I referred you to in an earlier post where the score was "Philistia 18-Palestina 3?
I am unaware that Heredotus, Aristotle, Polemeu,Pausanias and Philo would have written in English - so can only assume your quotes are "translations". Can you produce the originals in Greek or Latin so the translations can be verified?
The generally accepted view is that it was not until the Romans crushed the second Jewish revolt against Rome in 135 A.D. under Bar Kochba that Emperor Hadrian applied the term Palestina to the Land of Israel.
One matter of great consequence that you have brought to notice is Philo's comment in 1st century CE:
"Also Syria in Palestine, which is occupied by no small part of the very populous nation of the Jews, is not unproductive of honourable virtue."
Shock horror - Palestine - occupied by the very populous nation of the Jews? A Nation to boot?
What say you to this astounding revelation?
Did the League of Nations get it right when the Mandate spoke of recognition being given to the "historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconsitutuing their national home in that country"?
Where are you getting your translations from? Are they sourced from non-partisan scholarly web sites or from propagandist self-serving Palestinian websites?
Mine come from purely scholarly sources - take a look at this one
http://biblehub.com/isaiah/14-29.htm
No axe to grind for Jews or Arabs. Independent to the core.
Why would you
1. pick one of the very few Bible translations that uses the term "palestina" when there are so many more that use the term "Philistia"
2. Not even mention there are many more Bibles that use the translation "Philistia"
That is the kind of half truth Abbas used in his UN address. You are no better. Too smart and smarmy by far.
Care to provide the links to your extensive sources?