The ones that are against GW for whatever reason are not about to offer any sort of middle ground because they believe it does not exist.

So whatever is happening to our climate isn,t really happening, it is normal. So unless our leaders take up the challenge to combat why it is not happening, Co2 will continue to rise and cause our world to be normal.

Glacial ice melt is not happening it is normal to the point of disappearing. So all these normal things going on , it makes you wonder what is happening. One of us is wrong, and by the time there is consensus the world will be stuffed or the world will be normal

Doog the real point is that the IPP knuckleheads are making an absolute fortune from this nonsense, that is the point. You cannot trust people who are making money from anything to do anything but support every bit of it.
I suggest you also read Eisenhower's famous 1960's speech about the Military/Industrial complex. The very next paragraph was to offer the same warning about "Researchers".
Here they are telling us we have a problem and they will fix it but we will pay. Under the auspices of the UN? Do me a favour and get your hand out of my pocket.
Whatever happened to the clear and present danger on CFCs'? They are still being made in Russia and india.

What happened was the Montreal Protocol, JBowyer, a comprehensive international treaty which has been ratified by 197 countries across the globe. All countries are now working to meet the protocol requirements with phase-outs of chemical use etc.

Look it up.

Another lazy one.

>> IPP knuckleheads are making an absolute fortune from this nonsense, that is the point.<<
Yeah, it's all a conspiracy of the all-powerful guv-ern-ment. Any independent lab could disprove global warming by demonstrating the heat *leaking* properties of CO2. Multiple government agencies have been co-opted by an all powerful cabal, including HAARP weather changing apps to remove glaciers, change seasons, and "mimic" this global warming phenomenon everyone's faking, including the infamous 'sea-rising' app. It's an amazing conspiracy, but of course as we all know TOTALLY TRUE! For totes!

Also, I have these tinfoil hats for sale, in case you don't want your mind altered by the NASA temperature satellites...

Bugsy,

You have proved my comments to be right by saying: "I didn't infer that you were lazy, ttbn. I AM OUT AND OUT ASSERTING IT". You follow the pattern perfectly: character assassination of your opponents rather then evidenced argument and discussion.

Next, you bring my character and integrity into question by stating that I am politically motivated, and that I believe that "everyone else is lazy". Rather an odd statement when you accuse ME of "lazy thinking again" just after that.

I gave you the opportunity to prove me wrong (twice, actually), but you couldn't do it. You restorted to the same old response from the Left - name calling.

As for being politically, unlike you, I have never belonged to ANY political party, and I am not a particular friend of the Coalition. I have never had a need for mob support or forming thought in a bubble, and I refuse to support self-serving, career politicians, and paying a membership fee to do it.

Ironically, I seem to be the only one providing any sort of evidence in this 'discussion' ttbn.

I am not saying you are politically motivated, just that you think in terms of left/right and ascribe particular traits to that false dichotomy. Hence the 'typical left' trope. But I'm not from the 'left'.

You are just lazy, lazy in your research, lazy in your thinking. You just make assertions or some sort of rumor you heard or read somwhere and say 'prove me wrong'. Well, I did and provided evidence to back up my alternative narrative for you to just dismiss.

Lazy lazy lazy.

I don't care about your political affiliations or lack of them.

And I'm done with you, 'cause after a while it just feels like I'm yelling at a child. Not a good look.