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Refugee crisis calls for compassion and pragmatism : Comments

By Mal Fletcher, published 23/9/2015

Europe's refugee crisis will continue to inspire heated debates about the tension between humanitarianism and manageability. When governments err, they should err on the side of compassion.

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There's no valid argument as to why we should re-settle a single migrant let alone millions, the support for Third World emigration as a "right" is backed only by quasi-religious sentimentality and misinformation.
So breaking it down support for "refugees" is based on fictional renderings of the situation abroad which are used by my people as the building block of a public persona indicating their high social status or at least the desire to climb the social ladder.
It's very clear,black and white even, support for mass Third World emigration is an upper middle class social trend which is as distinct and distant from the views of the majority as wine appreciation is from drag racing.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 8:17:44 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me that Australian commentators can address the refugee crisis engulfing Europe without once pausing to consider its root cause. The principal root cause is the chaos and disruption caused by western governments and their GCC allies in invading, bombing, disrupting, seeking regime change, support for jihadist groups, Gladio B operations etc etc in target countries.

General Wesley clark let the cat out of the bag about 5 years ago when he identified the countries being targeted. They include Iraq, Syria, Sudan and Iran. Sure enough, that is exactly where the bombings, invasions etc are occurring. Australia, it hardly needs to be added, has been an enthusiastic supporter of US misadventures in this.

Instead of worrying about "humanitarian" responses (which are intrinsically fine) let's look at the real issues and address those.
Posted by James O'Neill, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 10:47:46 AM
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Not going to read any more rubbish about "compassion" for Muslim invaders and probable jihadi plants in the West. "Stupidity" is a much better word, and we will be seeing much more of if with the loony left Turnbull and Bishop. They have already weakened the immigration minister in preparation for re-starting the flood of illegals. Who needs Labor when we have these two creeps!
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 10:53:43 AM
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This is footage from Denmark of a Hizb Ut Tahrir rally, one of the most tolerant, liberal countries up until now do you think that maybe the Danish government's current refusal to accept any more migrants might indicate that they know something about Islamic immigration that middle class Australians don't?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ae6_1442713165#41WqLbToHHcE1kuI.01

Here's another absolute howler, how can the middle classes still trust their media when so called "journalists" can't even be bothered checking someone's social media profiles before elevating their emigration experience as this week's Rosa Parks Moment?
Syrian refugee tripped over by Hungarian journalist was part of Al Qaeda's Nusra front:
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/syrian-refugee-tripped-over-by-hungarian-journalist-was-part-al-qaedas-nusra-front-647390

Another beaut blog, day to day life in Raqqa under ISIS through the eyes of a British born Jihadi, take particular note of his comments on his Arab brothers in arms:
http://abusaeedawlaki.tumblr.com/
Is it not possible that Abu Sa'eed Al-Britani may be onto something whe he describes the young men fleeing ISIS as mostly criminals, shirkers and people unwilling to live the Koranic way of life?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 1:35:52 PM
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James O'Neill,

No question that Western interference has been part of the problem, but you can't assume that everything would be ducky without it. You don't mention, for example, that the Syrians have more than quadrupled their population since 1960 and that the other refugee source countries also have very high fertility rates or did until quite recently. The Syrians have also suffered from a very severe drought, and the unrest actually began with poor people and not radical students.

Food prices on the world market started to skyrocket in 2007. They have since come down from the peak, but are still much higher than in, say, 2004. Most of the rise was ultimately due to the skyrocketing price of oil feeding into the cost of agricultural inputs and tempting countries to grow biofuels instead of food. Syria is no longer self-sufficient in food, so did not have a buffer against these price rises. The Syrians' own State Planning Commission estimated that 48% of the average income is spent on food, and it would be much higher for low income people, of course.

This article plots food riots on a graph of the FAO World Food Price Index and clearly shows the relationship between food prices and social unrest

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1108.2455.pdf

The Egyptians demonstrating in Tahrir Square were asking for bread and freedom, but they were asking for bread first.
Posted by Divergence, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 1:57:19 PM
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Divergence,
Note also that Syria is only 2/3 the size of Victoria but has about 23 million people and it's the poor, intellectually deficient, superstitious sector of the population which has blown out over the last few decades. Both the Syrian government and the Islamists have failed to transfer anything like a set of what we'd term "values" to these people even at the point of a gun, so the prospect of them suddenly becoming good little westerners is about zero.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 2:49:03 PM
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