In ideological terms the politically moderate Turnbull should get on better with the Democrat Obama. Obama couldn't stand the rightwinger Abbott.

I agree that the German offering (the TKMS 216) for Australia's future submarine, is a more balanced design from the world's most successful submarine exporter. http://gentleseas.blogspot.com.au/2015/09/the-type-216-strong-contender-for.html

Japan has a steep learning curve on how to organise an Australian build. The Japanese offering (not yet built) is definitly NOT military off the shelf. With Abbott gone hopefully his blind preference for a Japanese sub will go with him.

France is vainly trying to convert their oversized nuclear submarine design into a smaller conventional sub. http://gentleseas.blogspot.com.au/2015/09/shortfin-barracuda-bid-maybe.html .

Pete

The subs should be built here, the employment is needed, and the expertise is also needed. We should be capable of all of our own military equipment. The idea of building in a foreign country is backward.

We could not supply the Bushmasters from the local plant here because the US policy says they had to be built local under license. That is what we need to do.

Free Trade Deals are ok, as long they do not have hidden time bombs implanted. Mr Abbott being what he was, has complicated the issues surrounding the FTD with issues that could have been better left off the terms of agreement.

Australia as an island continent that does not have divisions as to pay rates or living standards, and this should be closely guarded.

We do have problems with friends. Relationship with Indonesia must be repaired, and stay out of their internal affairs. Idiots know the rules of Indonesia, so they take their own risk. There is no place in politics with the welfare of drug runners.

Rather than building ALL 8 submarines in Australia I think the Hybrid Build Option should be taken up - where the risky first of class building and essential testing is done in Germany, Japan or France. (All three proposed submarines are new concepts - not already built/off the shelf.)

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the 7 remaining subs are built in sections in Williamstown VIC, Adelaide and Henderson, WA.

Final assembly should not automatically be at ASC in Adelaide as this has been a proven recipe for overprice failure (ie. the Collins (also defects) and the Air Warfare Destroyers)

Pete
Submarine Matters
http://gentleseas.blogspot.com.au/

http://ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/po-obamaj.html

And guess what, the political game is exactly that. The Bushes and Clintons have the same demonic ideology. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. Masters of Deception for Divide and Conquer.

A Review of Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals (Clinton and Obama frauds and war mongers)
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2010/03/4381/

The Obama Hoax Finally Revealed
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=766 (by exJew)

Globalism is an intro to Communism (The New World Order (chaos). Everything the corporates tell us, just think the opposite. A liberal, a progressive just think TYRANNY.

Everything they tell us is a FRAUD and BIG LIES! Sustainability really means destruction. Al Gore is a fraud. They have taken over all our liberties and have gagged us through emotional blackmail. Just look at the Syrian boy on the beach. How gullible can people be?

"MUST WATCH" "The Obama Deception HQ" Full length version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuWCR86kM_w

The replacement of Tony Abbott with Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull is worrying Japanese submarine sales teams in Adelaide and Canberra (including in the Japanese Embassy). There is concern that Abbott-Abe understandings to buy the Japanese submarine have now been cancelled.

Turnbull’s diplomatic style and attitude to any alliance with Japan is unknown. Abbott’s sudden closeness to Abe may need to be recreated by Japan.

Turnbull is politically a moderate while Abbott and Abe were kindred conservatives.

Turnbull’s wife, Lucy Turnbull, is powerful in her own right. Her most prominent past role was Lord Mayor of Sydney. Significantly she is the current President of the German-Australian Chamber of Industry and Commence - see http://australien.ahk.de/en/about-us/board-of-directors/ . She is reputedly familiar with the future submarine project from the German point of view.

Turnbull's current attitude to the China military threat may not be the same as Abbott’s. The views of Turnbull’s Defence Minister, Kevin Andrews or a replacement, may be more influential. The trilateral Japan-US-Australia alliance (or quadrilateral - adding India) is probably still the informal though not official policy.

It has yet to be confirmed in Hansard (officially recording Parliamentary House of Representatives statements) whether Kevin Andrews, who is still Defence Minister, stated in Parliamentiary Question Time (September 17, 2015) that perhaps 70% to 80% of new submarine work could be done in Australia. If so this may signal a change in policy. Note that the current feeling by industry in Australia is that Australia will order 8 submarines overall – not 12.

Perhaps in Japan’s favour is that Australia still appears locked into using the US submarine combat system - giving the US considerable political, economic and alliance influence over Australia’s choice of submarine.

more see http://gentleseas.blogspot.com.au/2015/09/turnbull-government-and-australias.html

I believe Malcolm is doing a Gillard (both planted by CIA and the Illuminati cabal globalists). We didn’t vote for them, did we?

Goldman Sachs Betrayal Of America (Malcolm Turnbull set it up in Oz)
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=645

The Wall Street Wolves and banksters are coming undone. You'll see.

As JFK said, “Everything is a rich man’s trick”. They frickin killed him and bobby for wanting to break the power of the PRIVATE Federal Reserve and stop Israel from going nuclear (which they have heaps and are never investigated – duh?) and for Bobby’s investigation of the Zionist mafia.

http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2012/09/09/malcolm-turnbull-the-rain-man-who-speaks-with-forked-tongue/

Malcolm’s ties with the Dirty Digger Murdoch (another traitor and killer) who has a secret family history and is an Israeli citizen. They own practically all of the CONTROLLED media in Oz and about 45% in the rest of the world.

They have controlled the media for 100years and taught as a Marxist version of disinformation of our history. It’s been planned for centuries.

http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2015/02/08/malcolm-turnbulls-dirty-laundry-of-fraud-theft-will-destroy-the-liberal-party-if-elected-leader/