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Can Turnbull expand the Liberal constituency? : Comments
By Graham Young, published 15/9/2015Turnbull is a centrist and pragmatist, which means he will struggle to carry the hearts, although he may capture the votes, of the grass roots of the Liberal Party.
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Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 4:57:50 PM
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Runner, if I had more time, I would have found each and every one myself, but then I found the Getup video, it had all of the eg's I remembered, plus some I didn't. These weren't carefully edited, they showed the truth about the man - he has no principles, he will say whatever it takes.
Here's another Youtube clip showing the infamous interview he did with Kerry O'Brien where he said you could only trust his carefully scripted remarks - we couldn't trust his off the cuff remarks. This time the topic was his parental leave policy - no new taxes one month, next month, a new tax. As well as his revolving climate change stance. KERRY O'BRIEN: No, but I'd like you to explain it. Tony Abbott feels with conviction we will not have a new tax in any way, shape or form, we won't have a new tax; a month later, you do. TONY ABBOTT: Well, again Kerry, I know politicians are gonna be judged on everything they say, but sometimes, in the heat of discussion, you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely calm, considered, prepared, scripted remark, which is one of the reasons why the statements that need to be taken absolutely as gospel truth is those carefully prepared scripted remarks. ... KERRY O'BRIEN: But what you are saying is that the public are not going to know from one day to the next when you are saying something that's absolutely rock solid and when it's not. ... We've talked about - I'll say this quickly. We've talked about the time you told the audience in a Victorian country town that the climate change argument was "absolute crap". And then you told me later that you were just being loose with your language. "It didn't represent my true position," you said. How are we to know when we're hearing your true position and when you're fudging the truth?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc5ljcri6Nk Posted by BJelly, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 4:59:31 PM
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I have no idea why all the righties around here are yodelling in pain because Turnbull decided "not" to do a Costello - and to act when he knew he had the numbers.
Roy Morgan did a snap poll - and guess what? "New Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull gets immediate mandate from Australian electors as Better PM: Turnbull 70% cf. Shorten 24%" http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/6451-australia-better-pm-turnbull-shorten-september-15-2015-201509150557 Shorten is now under the pump. Gone are the days when all he had to do was wait until Abbott put his foot in his mouth. Now he'll have to rev up a notch or two....that doesn't make you guys happy? runner, Notwithstanding that your penchant is to run by here and mouth off any nonsense that takes your fancy - can you itemise the great character traits of Tony Abbott? Apart from his gift of lying and standing next to flags and uniforms... Fancy the govt catching Abbottophobia - it's quite contagious I hear : ) Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 4:59:35 PM
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Hi Runner, Here is a source you might have more faith in, The Courier Mail, 2011.
Tony Abbott Makes a Habit of Flipping - "Mind you, consistency is not Abbott's strong suit. This is, after all, the man who initially dismissed climate change as "crap". Then, when former prime minister John Howard acknowledged the need for action on climate change and took an emissions trading scheme to the 2007 election, Abbott advocated a carbon tax. Now the very tax Abbott argued in favour of when it suited him is allegedly going to visit devastation upon the land. This is the same Tony Abbott who warns of economic plague and pestilence in Victoria's Latrobe Valley as brown coal power stations are shut down and who intends to use taxpayers' money to take direct action against those very same emitters. This is the Tony Abbott who in 2009 said: "We don't want to play games with the planet so we are taking this issue seriously and we would like to see an ETS." In essence, Abbott is trying to appeal to the sceptics with a plan that in effect amounts to virtually "no action"." http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/tony-abbott-makes-a-habit-of-flipping/story-e6freon6-1226106158058 Posted by BJelly, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 5:21:45 PM
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What a new-look TURNBULL CABINET could look like
(sacked, demotion, retain or promotion) Scott Morrison – new Treasurer Joe Hockey - to be sacked Kelly O'Dwyer - current Parl Sec to the Treasurer promotion. Peter Dutton - sacked or demoted Michaelia Cash - currently Assistant Minister, promoted to Immigration Christopher Pyne - Education or Defence Kevin Andrews - demotion? Mathias Cormann – demotion or sacked Assistant Treasurer Josh Frydenberg - retain or promotion to Finance Minister Julie Bishop - retain Foreign Affairs Andrew Robb – retain Trade Sussan Ley – retain Health Fiona Nash, current Assistant Minister for Health - promotion. Concetta Fierravanti-Wells, current Parl Sec Social Services - promotion National Party ministers to basically stay same. See http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/09/15/06/15/what-turnbulls-cabinet-could-look-like Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 6:31:17 PM
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Here you go, runner.
" Replacing a man of character with a man of spin delights the regressives...." You won't be surprised then to learn that your "man of character" squibbed the honourable route to bowing out of office - that is, taking a trip in person to the Governor General to hand in his resignation. Instead he faxed it. Yes - the Prime Minister of Australia faxed his resignation to the Governor General. That's the character of Tony Abbott. (Btw, I'm not surprised) Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 7:15:22 PM
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that in order to win an election you have to be able to
persuade the voters who did not vote for you to change
their minds. And part of that strategy is you actually
need to convince voters that you do have a plan as well
as the capacity to implement it.
Three word slogans work - only in part. Yet they're not
enough - the problem lies in the policy detail and
working out what should come next.
Currently there was an empty void in our political system
where people searched for meaning and answers and hope
for the future. They simply did not get it and that led
to the ghastly polls spelling the death knell of Mr
Abbott's leadership. "Trust me" - is uninformed belief.
Its simple dogma and simply insisting you are correct is
no longer enough. The country's verging on recession and
there's been no one to inspire the voters that the
future will be better.
Whether Mr Turnbull can do the inspiration remains to be
seen. However, he certainly can do no worse than what has
been on offer.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/comment/the-elements-that-make-tony-abbotts-departure-inevitable-have-fallen-into-place-20150914-gjm2id.html