Turnbull is very arrogant and won't listen to advice. I refuse to vote for any of the party choices as they are all owned by large corporate interests.

Important News. HSBC has just lost 38% of it's value in the Chinese crash. They are a big shareholder in all our banks. Reports of people unable to access their money. http://peoplestrustmalaysia.wordpress.com/2015/09/06/western-banks-in-turmoil-as-british-banking-giant-hsbc-nears-total-collapse/

The big money printing ie QE will now begin. Now Turnbull being an ex Banker will be kind to us,won't he ?

Author, "Every time I have tested Turnbull as leader against Abbott in one of our polls he has been preferred leader, but by Labor and Greens voters, not Liberal voters"

Spot on.

Turnbull supporters in polls would not vote LNP anyhow.

The LNP had an effective leader who had put in the hard yards both in winning office and in realising difficult promises. He deserved the support of his team.

The problem for the Labor Opposition is that Turnbull is as egocentric, slippery and populist as Shorten, which will likely provoke the career politicians on that side of the chamber to engage in more obvious disloyalty towards him (Shorten).

There is plenty of leaking by the ex-Gillard government Grrls past and present against the Opposition leader but to date the tabloids have had an investment in trashing Abbott. That target has gone, particularly because Abbott would be too principled to do a 'Rudd' to Turnbull. Expect Emily's List commentators to be back on their gender polling theme.

I think Malcolm Turnbull has been missing many Liberal votes because of his desire for Australia to become a Republic.

Even I ask, what will a Republic produce financially in comparison to what would it cost to establish a Republic?

At the same time i think leadership by MT indicates light at the end of the tunnel, especially if he can leave the Republic issue alone during these difficult times.

JF Aus,

I don't have any investment in either side, but I sure hope that Turnbull will continue with policies that are already in place and working but need to be given time.

The Shorten-led Opposition is devoid of policies, let alone policies that matter where the major challenges of government are concerned.

I do not imagine that the tabloid media and with entertainment programs such as Q&A posing as news reporting the ABC has fought hard to be included in that (tabloid) category, will be kind to Turnbull. 'Got Ya' reporting is cheap entertainment, no skills are required and the peanut gallery forget the loss of local news stories.

Congratulations to Mr Turnbull, a man of poseur and middle of the road character. He is a true Liberal.

The world will join in congratulating Mr Turnbull taking back what was taken from him. Some will not be happy, as they have put all of their collective eggs in the same time bomb. It was obvious AU could not go on like it has been for 2 years.

Lets get back to realistic govt; and move this nation forward with renewed vigor with certainty. The Abbott style has failed miserably, that is not Australia, we need govt;s that tell us what is best for our future, being decided by a collective govt;.

Commiserations to Abbott’s unwavering supporters, which only served as a stumbling block for change. Unable to see the hidden dangers in a leader who wanted all for himself. After effects were not a concern to him.

This day will go down in history as a change that saved a nation from certain catastrophic changes that were about as lopsided as you can ever imagine, all in the name of Conservatism.
Congratulations Mr Turnbull.

There's no such thing as a "Liberal grass roots", it's a few thousand elderly members, a handful Young Liberal groups who seem to do little but meddle in local politics and a smattering of lunatics and religious fanatics. Turnbull's actual constituents are the Sydney elite, the so called silvertails and the bouregeois classes, he has no appeal outside that narrow segment of society.
Mind you neither did Abbott while Shorten is despised by the working classes and mention the name Richard Di Natali on a work site and you'll get nothing but blank stares.
Baranaby Joyce and Rupert Murdoch are right, Australian politics at present resembles a failed South Pacific state and as Murdoch noted the country is basically ungovernable in it's present state.

It had to happen...unless the Coalition wanted to go down like a screaming wreck at the next election.

I can't believe even die hard Lib supporters couldn't see the wretchedness of the govt's position due to Abbott and his "cunning plans".

The heat is now on Shorten - that should please some people around here.

(Has anyone checked on Hasbeen? - he won't be taking this well)

HI OTB,

You lightly assert that "Turnbull is as egocentric, slippery and populist as Shorten". I must protest that that is a most dreadful and hurtful thing to say about Turnbull, but the next few months should test that.

I WAS hoping for a Turnbull-Plibersek election, but of course, the way that the Labor Party chooses its parliamentary leader means that it is stuck with Shorten for a while yet. So is the Royal Commission :)

Wouldn't be dead for quids !

So will Turnbull go early or wait ? I'm predicting an election early next year, by March or April.

Joe

If he wants to stamp himself as a leader he should go DD as soon as he can to get the Senate back to a workable semblance.

Yep, it's a problem across the western world, globalisation seems to have made the old party formations redundant. New formations are required, perhaps the liberal environmental city based globalist groups need to form a new party and the suburban and rural groups could form a type of Christian democratic party.

I find Turnbull the most cynical, self-serving, self-loving, power-hungry individual ever to enter politics. His only commitment is to himself. Along with his nasty, mutton-dressed-as-lamb deputy, he will finish the Liberal party off.

I had aready decided to cast an informal vote, but the change in leadership has made me more determinec to do that. These galahs, after chastising Labor's Rudd, Gillard, Rudd coniptions, have done the same thing, and have lost all right to government. It no longer matters whether it is they or Labor who forms government next year. There is not much hope for Australia either way,

Joe (Loudmouth),

You are right, I did vastly undervalue Shorten in all of those respects.

Shorten is also a lay down Misere for lack of principles and ethics, but that goes without saying.

Graham,

"Turnbull is a centrist and pragmatist, which means he will struggle to carry the hearts, although he may capture the votes, of the grass roots of the Liberal Party."

I don't know about that.

We have several friends who are Liberal voters - true Liberal voters, the kind of people who repudiate the likes of Hawke and Keating. A couple of them are ex-farmers from the Conservative heartland.

They couldn't stand Abbott.

They saw what he was doing and the way he carried on, and lately if Abbott's name was mentioned, they would merely stare at their feet in embarrassment - as if they were waiting for this episode to be over and a real "Liberal" to once again take the reins.

Whatever happened, the IPA swallowed the Liberal Party, put in place an inarticulate leader who attempted to institute extreme austerity.

When all is said and done, all Abbott had was "We stopped the boats" - insulting our intelligence with every presser he made - treating us like dolts ad nauseam.

No respect for the intelligence of voters.

Here's the true stature of Tony Abbott, the sportsman, the team player...last night he couldn't even summon up the character to make a concession speech.

No surprise there.

I agree Poirot. Where is the gracious defeat speech that Julia and Kevin gave us after they were knifed? Abbott has no backbone at all.

I remain absolutely delighted that Abbott is gone.
He was embarrassing as a PM.

Turnbull may not be the perfect replacement, but at least he can speak well in public.....and he is for a republic and to legalise gay marriage,
No wonder most of the characters on this forum are choking over their wheeties this morning!

Of course no one admits being a supporter of an erratic regime now, but former posts don’t go away.

Turnbull has again taken control of a splintered govt; after being knifed by Abbott to push his own agenda. He is the man to consolidate and put forward a formidable govt until the next election. The Nats are not happy, being a spare part to a lost regime.

All of the misadventures of Abbott will now emerge as a distancing post. Abbott’s greatest achievements cost our bottom line and done nothing else. The removal of the carbon tax was a gift to the nations worst polluters, and the ACCC could not find evidence of any remuneration for households.

We were taken to an election on untruths, and suffered 2 years to correct the situation. Now the libs have got to get past all of the criticism they had of why Turnbull had to go. The change to a Conservative was a volcano with a swollen belly.

The last straw was the .2 % growth, we need leadership now to avoid depression.

Investment is all but gone, hopefully we will now see a reversal. Business must have confidence in govt; to expand and employ, certainty has been lacking for 2 years and now we see the figures emerging from lack of investment.

Turnbull will be good for the liberal brand and business, and all Liberal supporters should be thankful of a challenge to a failed experiment that was leading into a third world economy.
Turnbull has to prove nothing, a govt must work with a senate, not be a bully to a senate.

The Libs were good at blaming others at Abbott’s shortcomings. If you do not make the news you can not be in it. A senate does not make a govt; public opinion makes a govt; Trying to rely on a friendly Senate is asking for mistakes to be made.

The mood this morning is to critisise Shorten, Abbott doesn’t get to much mention at all. I think they are practicing getting their tongues around the word Turnbull

Bill Shorten is assured of his position as Leader of the Opposition for some time to come and he won't be bothered by challengers.

Thanks for that good news, Is Mise :) I've never voted Liberal but looking at Shorten and his complete lack of principles, I'm seriously re-considering. Nah, I'll go informal. It's difficult, isn't it, when one has voted Labor forever, and one is confronted with the choice of Shorten. No way, Jose.

Joe

Yep no doubt Turnbull will take credit for stopping the illegals and scrapping the fools carbon tax. Replacing a man of character with a man of spin delights the regressives. No doubt the big winners will be new parties and independants who care more about this country than sucking up the the European fools.

I hope Turnbull does move the Liberals back towards the centre ground, to more humane policies, less secrecy and a more intelligent dialogue with the public and media. He speech last night was promising. Let’s see if he delivers.

As I said in a post yesterday Tony was a great opposition leader a terrible PM.
Let's hope Malcolm who was a terrible opposition leader is a great PM for the countries sake.

Don't worry runner you still have Cory to fawn over.

We should not overlook the achievement of Julie Bishop, who won the deputy's position 70 votes to 30, much more convincing that Malcolm. And gets to keep her Foreign Minister job when other heads are rolling. Clearly she has appeal to all sides of the Party and a strong mandate. I was hoping for a Bishop - Plibersek election - now wouldn't that stir things up!

I know exactly how you feel Loudmouth, no one I can vote for.

There is no way I could vote Liberal, now they have proved themselves stupid enough to make the truly disgusting Turnbull their leader. They obviously have no principles, or sense.

No one with a brain could vote for a party who's best choice was Shorten. Hell, he is even worse than Rudd or Gillard.

I wonder if informal will be the highest count of votes in some electorates?

I expect the tribalism of the left will get Labor in at the next election. I will just have to welcome an increase of handout to us now useless citizens. I'll be richer for the next few years, but pretty despairing for my grandkids future.

Actually I suppose none of this matters much, when the Muslim invasion turns from the EU to here, we will end up with an entirely different form of government. That will at least clean out the vipers nest of feminists from the government & bureaucracy.

Very true Suse

Turnbull has the brains to widen his centrist, middle ground constituency.

In so doing Turnbull can grasp many of the votes currently with hollowman Shorten and Greens who can't govern.

Palmer appears mainly out of the picture since his conservative micro-party imploded.

Some strange Independents or rising Xenophon (mainly with a South Australian power base)?

This disenfranchises many old-bold rogue males who over-populate some forums. Who can they vote for now - except Turnbull?

Congratulations to Mr. Turnbull. At last we have a man with a brain at the helm, some substance instead of spin.
David

G'day there POIROT...

Well finally you've got your wish, Tony ABBOTT is gone. The question now remains, is Malcolm TURNBULL the one to turn around the LNP'S fortunes or is he just there to assuage his own ego, and satisfy his desire to get the top job ? An ideal he's savoured (apparently) since his University days ?

I've just heard Mr ABBOTT'S last delivery as PM where he acknowledged his defeat and undertook not to become a political 'wrecking ball', whatever that may entail ? I reckon he spoke well, lets see what others think.

I liked Tony ABBOTT, while I believe he was not a particularly good Prime Minister, nonetheless he'll probably be best remembered as a superb Opposition Leader, again that's for others to judge. I liked his character, even though many questioned his integrity. I admired his personal morality, his ethics, and his undoubted toughness.

I've no illusions that most of what I've opined herein will be utterly contradicted ? Still I've never made a claim to having any specific mastery of politics, and after all it's merely my opinion ?

My thoughts on Mr Malcolm TURNBELL, I don't trust nor like him, it's as simple as that. I'm now in a quandary, as a conservative, I've no one left to vote for, another informal vote to be cast aside. I could never vote for Mr TURNBELL, and a vote for Mr SHORTIN, unthinkable !

Dear Loudmouth,

You wrote;

“I WAS hoping for a Turnbull-Plibersek election”

Will have to admit harbouring the same wish. Oh for a contest of well articulated ideas rather than the three word slogans Abbott had perfected and Shorten had mimicked.

I think the liberal Party had finally wised up to just how much Abbott had alienated even the conservatives in the electorate. Broken promises are still broken promises whatever side of politics you were on, unfairness is easily identified and generally frowned upon whether it be budgetary or in the actions of the parliamentary speaker, and multiple bad judgement calls become an embarrassment.

The last point is probably the essence. No body wants a person they consider an embarrassment to be their leader and Tony Abbott and the far right clique who unfortunately had the reins for the last two years were an embarrassment. My wife's family are firm religious conservatives but this particular incarnation of the Coalition had lost them.

Hopefully Turnbull is able to drag the party back from the brink, to loosen the claws the far right had on the party, to indeed be a 'broad church'. What I am also be interested in is how much it will change the culture of Online Opinion forum posts. We have certainly needed the 'claws the far right' loosened here as well. It hasn't been a pleasant time for either the country nor this site but spring is in the air, the dogs are getting herded back into their kennels, and progressive and inclusive politics may be in the offing.

Hello estelles,

I don't know about your Labor hopeful, but you're about the only one here who's picked up the true mover and shaker in this game - Juliar Bishop.

Bishop could never have defeated Abbott alone, but with him moved out of the frame, it's not going to be difficult for her to roll Turnbull over the course of the next year, before the next scheduled election, assuming there isn't a double dissolution called sooner.

It's exactly the same play as Gillard used when she and Rudd rolled Mark Latham, then she later rolled Rudd. You could see it coming from day one.

Bishop just has to wait until Turnbull's lustre turns to smell within the party and hey-presto! She's the natural choice for the majority of the party and as you point out she already has the numbers.

At least Gillard's plot was original. Bishop is just playing copy-cat. It's too bad that it seems it's the only way women can get into the top job.

Anyway estelles, good call.

Hi Estelles,

You never know, that might come about :) There would be many obstacles for both of them, especially for Plibersek in the way the leader of the Labor Party is chosen, but live in hope :)

Yes, that would be something: two strong women, neither of whom has to stoop to play the victim. Hell, I might even vote again.

Joe

I guess the only thing the creators of Yes Prime Minister missed in forecasting the future of politics was to put Jim Hacker in a skirt then.

Runner "Replacing a man of character with a man of spin delights the regressives. "
By a man of character, I assume you mean a God-fearing man? How do you know what Turnbull believes in?

You must be inconsolable today Runner, with the holy Abbott shuffling off into the political wilderness like your fave pollie Gillard did? If only the Libs would also see off those other dreadfully old-fashioned good 'ol boys Kevin Andrews and Cory Bernardi.
I will really pop the champagne bottle if that happens.

I see all the other good 'ol boys from conservative lib-land on this forum preparing to chuck their dummies out of their prams today too. Not very loyal are you?

I voted for the Coalition in the last election because I have always been a Nationals supporter, with living in the rural areas of WA, but it nearly killed me doing so with Abbott ranting at it's helm. I remember thinking that he just can't stay there, because surely they will all come to their senses...and I was right.

'Runner "Replacing a man of character with a man of spin delights the regressives. "By a man of character, I assume you mean a God-fearing man? How do you know what Turnbull believes in? '

How do I know what Turnbull believes? Obviously everything the idiotic getup crowd clap on Q & A.

'You must be inconsolable today Runner,'

no Susie just saddened that again deceit wins out over truth, that even many who dislike Turnbull in his own party would sell their souls. I am actually thrilled that Abbott remained true to his convictions even though it cost him his job. Unlike Rudd and Gillard who opposed gay 'marriage' but then changed their minds, who promised no carbon tax and then pooped on the electorate we had a man who put principle above popularity. Others who have very little integrity in private life have no problems with knifing people for their own gain. Obviously our journalist continue to be uncomfortable with politicians with convictions becaue they have no morality themselves. Yes Tony had faults and should never had made promises of no cuts to Government, abc etc when he knew Labour had totally trashed the economy.

ttbn, Loudmouth, o sung wu, if you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem.

Deliberately voting informal just consolidates the Tweedles' dominance.

We need to undermine and sabotage that dominance.

The only way to do that is vote for other candidates/parties.
Any and all other options.
(progressive pat, there is a Christian Democratic Party)

To me, in the short term, it doesn't matter who wins a seat, as long as it's not another Tweedle.

Even a party I despise would be preferable, as it undermines the dualist straitjacket.

estelles "I was hoping for a Bishop - Plibersek election - now wouldn't that stir things up!"

But with a female PM and a female opposition leader who will the feminists blame for wimmins apparently eternal "oppression"?

As for Cory Bernadi Susie I think he should start another party.He speaks more truth and sense than the vast majority of politicians.

What makes me think the Libs probably made the right choice in going with Turnbull was Bill Shorten's demeanour after the results were announced. He looked almost as bad as Abbott.

Oh well, it's all good fun

Tony Abbott - a man of conviction? Are you sure Runner?
Check out this youtube video showing the many and varied stances he has taken on climate change - the man changed direction more often than the wind. He is notable for saying whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear - conviction indeed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjqtFlOrGg

BJelly,

you just confirm that deceit wins out by the carefully edited utubes. Of course climate change is real. When has the climate not changed. As for man made gw, its c_ap as has been shown by hopeless predictions by charlotans and dodgy models. Abbott was consistant in his approach unlike the previous rabbel. Surely you can come up with a little better than that to prove your point. The getup crowd are the most dumbed down group I have known in my life.

Malcolm Turnbull once stated words to the effect
that in order to win an election you have to be able to
persuade the voters who did not vote for you to change
their minds. And part of that strategy is you actually
need to convince voters that you do have a plan as well
as the capacity to implement it.

Three word slogans work - only in part. Yet they're not
enough - the problem lies in the policy detail and
working out what should come next.

Currently there was an empty void in our political system
where people searched for meaning and answers and hope
for the future. They simply did not get it and that led
to the ghastly polls spelling the death knell of Mr
Abbott's leadership. "Trust me" - is uninformed belief.
Its simple dogma and simply insisting you are correct is
no longer enough. The country's verging on recession and
there's been no one to inspire the voters that the
future will be better.

Whether Mr Turnbull can do the inspiration remains to be
seen. However, he certainly can do no worse than what has
been on offer.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/comment/the-elements-that-make-tony-abbotts-departure-inevitable-have-fallen-into-place-20150914-gjm2id.html

Runner, if I had more time, I would have found each and every one myself, but then I found the Getup video, it had all of the eg's I remembered, plus some I didn't. These weren't carefully edited, they showed the truth about the man - he has no principles, he will say whatever it takes.

Here's another Youtube clip showing the infamous interview he did with Kerry O'Brien where he said you could only trust his carefully scripted remarks - we couldn't trust his off the cuff remarks. This time the topic was his parental leave policy - no new taxes one month, next month, a new tax. As well as his revolving climate change stance.

KERRY O'BRIEN: No, but I'd like you to explain it. Tony Abbott feels with conviction we will not have a new tax in any way, shape or form, we won't have a new tax; a month later, you do.

TONY ABBOTT: Well, again Kerry, I know politicians are gonna be judged on everything they say, but sometimes, in the heat of discussion, you go a little bit further than you would if it was an absolutely calm, considered, prepared, scripted remark, which is one of the reasons why the statements that need to be taken absolutely as gospel truth is those carefully prepared scripted remarks.

...
KERRY O'BRIEN: But what you are saying is that the public are not going to know from one day to the next when you are saying something that's absolutely rock solid and when it's not. ... We've talked about - I'll say this quickly. We've talked about the time you told the audience in a Victorian country town that the climate change argument was "absolute crap". And then you told me later that you were just being loose with your language. "It didn't represent my true position," you said. How are we to know when we're hearing your true position and when you're fudging the truth?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc5ljcri6Nk

I have no idea why all the righties around here are yodelling in pain because Turnbull decided "not" to do a Costello - and to act when he knew he had the numbers.

Roy Morgan did a snap poll - and guess what?

"New Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull gets immediate mandate from Australian electors as Better PM: Turnbull 70% cf. Shorten 24%"

http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/6451-australia-better-pm-turnbull-shorten-september-15-2015-201509150557

Shorten is now under the pump. Gone are the days when all he had to do was wait until Abbott put his foot in his mouth. Now he'll have to rev up a notch or two....that doesn't make you guys happy?

runner,

Notwithstanding that your penchant is to run by here and mouth off any nonsense that takes your fancy - can you itemise the great character traits of Tony Abbott?

Apart from his gift of lying and standing next to flags and uniforms...

Fancy the govt catching Abbottophobia - it's quite contagious I hear : )

Hi Runner, Here is a source you might have more faith in, The Courier Mail, 2011.

Tony Abbott Makes a Habit of Flipping -
"Mind you, consistency is not Abbott's strong suit.

This is, after all, the man who initially dismissed climate change as "crap". Then, when former prime minister John Howard acknowledged the need for action on climate change and took an emissions trading scheme to the 2007 election, Abbott advocated a carbon tax.

Now the very tax Abbott argued in favour of when it suited him is allegedly going to visit devastation upon the land.

This is the same Tony Abbott who warns of economic plague and pestilence in Victoria's Latrobe Valley as brown coal power stations are shut down and who intends to use taxpayers' money to take direct action against those very same emitters.

This is the Tony Abbott who in 2009 said: "We don't want to play games with the planet so we are taking this issue seriously and we would like to see an ETS."

In essence, Abbott is trying to appeal to the sceptics with a plan that in effect amounts to virtually "no action"."
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/tony-abbott-makes-a-habit-of-flipping/story-e6freon6-1226106158058

What a new-look TURNBULL CABINET could look like
(sacked, demotion, retain or promotion)

Scott Morrison – new Treasurer

Joe Hockey - to be sacked

Kelly O'Dwyer - current Parl Sec to the Treasurer promotion.

Peter Dutton - sacked or demoted

Michaelia Cash - currently Assistant Minister, promoted to Immigration

Christopher Pyne - Education or Defence

Kevin Andrews - demotion?

Mathias Cormann – demotion or sacked

Assistant Treasurer Josh Frydenberg - retain or promotion to Finance Minister

Julie Bishop - retain Foreign Affairs

Andrew Robb – retain Trade

Sussan Ley – retain Health
Fiona Nash, current Assistant Minister for Health - promotion.

Concetta Fierravanti-Wells, current Parl Sec Social Services - promotion

National Party ministers to basically stay same.

See http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/09/15/06/15/what-turnbulls-cabinet-could-look-like

Here you go, runner.

" Replacing a man of character with a man of spin delights the regressives...."

You won't be surprised then to learn that your "man of character" squibbed the honourable route to bowing out of office - that is, taking a trip in person to the Governor General to hand in his resignation.

Instead he faxed it.

Yes - the Prime Minister of Australia faxed his resignation to the Governor General.

That's the character of Tony Abbott.

(Btw, I'm not surprised)

runner

The rumour that Saint Tony will be made Ambassador to the Vatican has not yet been confirmed.

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull could expand the Liberal constituency if he asked Greg Hunt to confirm or deny that nutrient pollution proliferated algae plant matter is most likely warming areas of ocean and changing the climate.
Greg Hunt has insight to relevant evidence of substance.

Then MT could speak to Warren Truss and Barnaby Joyce and ask might it be at all possible to harvest wet season water in northern Queensland and send it via steel aqueduct south into headwaters of the Murray Darling catchment, the latter commencing inland from Fraser Island.
It's downhill, no need for pumping.

Any interested party should then consider how the use of steel in such a system might stimulate the ore mining and steel industry.
Such water management infrastructure is needed worldwide.

Then MT could ask environment people if they think sending a flow of excess northern Queensland water to the Darling River and the water starved Coorong estuary, might be possible.
Environment flows could also be taken from the system to help drought impacted wetlands along the way.

This is about developing productive infrastructure to also achieve various solutions.

But does MT know about OLO and this thread?

"The rumour that Saint Tony will be made Ambassador to the Vatican has not yet been confirmed"

He may have competition there with Xavier College boy Willie Shorten's imminent availability. Fees alone are around $24k pa at that prestigious Jesuit College.

Although any boy discharged from Labor service is usually very badly damaged by the exit ritual. Then again, Kevin Rudd attended Marist Brothers Ashgrove for a time so maybe he was due and perhaps somehow enjoyed a flogging anyhow.

What's the bet that Julie Bishop knowing Malcolm Turnbull will become a liability very quickly will stab Malcolm in the back,just like she did to Tony ? Looks like a Julie Gillard Kevin Rudd scenario.

It is reported that Malcolm Turnbull had a private meeting with Rupert Murdoch just before the leadership spill just like Tony did a couple of years ago. While Tony is ruthless,he does have a moral code and relates to the common person.

With our coming economic woes,the elites need a ruthless leader to do their austerity bidding and Malcolm it seems,fits the bill.

Agriculture again having control of the Murray Darling Basin as in news today, is a step in the right direction for the teamwork required to manage the whole of the MDB water ecosystem.

Australia is a food producing nation.

Water is essential for food and fibre production, especially if there is to be an increase in production to increase export product capable of generating increase in employment and income and increased return of revenue for government services.

Managing water for agriculture can be achieved in harmony with caring for the environment.
Media and green groups have been ignoring devastation of ocean ecosystems.
Whale calf abandonment and stranding's and mass starvation of seabirds is sometimes reporting but causes and reasons and solutions are not investigated and reported.

There is need for water to reach the Coorong estuary, the Coorong is supposed to be a vital small fish nursery area feeding bigger fish and other animals in ocean waters.

A problem at present is that major media is not reporting the real state of the ocean environment, consequently voter are presently not aware of the devastation of ocean ecosystems or solutions so urgently required.

It is obvious the public will support sensible government care and management of the whole-water-ecosystem, and achieving such management has equally obvious potential to expand any political constituency.

Runner, have a look at this.
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/193325/adolescents-question-god
David

Thanks, David, there are some beautiful articles on that site.

Regards,

Joe

All Turnbull has to do to cement the Conservative Liberals is to seriously cut the funding to Their ABC. Frankly all would be forgiven given Abbott's failure to rein in this monopoly.

What makes you think rain will continue to fall in north qld.

Turnbull doesn’t stutter and does not tell you the same thing several times, as Toni did. He was not a PM’s bootlace.

To finish off this term of Coalition govt; Turnbull is the man. 12 months to see what the man holds is fair. When he stacks his front bench in his favor, he will be quite comfortable. Turnbull and the ABC get on good, without any bullying as came from Abbott.

The coalition has been infiltrated with Conservatives, which goes against the core of the Liberal party. This change will put some fairness back into the liberal side of politics. If you do not agree , you are a Conservative and not Liberal. That is why Abbott is not there any more.

An informal vote is a squibs vote, just because it does not suite you. Abbott should form his own political party instead of banycooting someone elses party. There is at least 4 persons here that would vote for him

The first air strike in Syria has been completed . Abbott told us a week ago that the first strike had been completed and all returned to base safely. The man could not help himself from telling lies. Thank god he has gone.

Victoria in for the roll out of the NDIS scheme. Signed up. This bloke is going to be a marvel, for Labor I mean Liberal. You can’t hold every state up because of lagers. That is up to them, and that is the way GST should be managed also.

Turnbull has been overwhelmingly accepted, no comment yet from Coalition supporters.

Arjay,
"What's the bet that Julie Bishop knowing Malcolm Turnbull will become a liability very quickly will stab Malcolm in the back,just like she did to Tony ?"
It won't happen until he's way behind in the polls. And it's safe to say it won't happen before the election, if only because she stands a much greater chance of being able to unseat him if he loses it.

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McCackie, what makes you think the ABC's a monopoly? Last time I checked it had various competitors: 7 9, 10, SBS, plus Foxtel, Stan, Netflix, FetchTV, various commercial radio stations and websites.

@ doog, "What makes you think rain will continue to fall in north qld, "

The high and stony Gregory Range in northern Queensland attracts cyclones in the region and cyclones usually teem with water that in this day and age can he harvested and stored in high valleys.

During the year even when there is no rain, each high water holding area could be drained into aqueduct running to Cubby Station type water holding areas further southward and lower down the aqueduct system.
On demand the cubby areas could be drained into the Murray Darling Basin.

It would be best to build up bulk water in the cubby areas and release it in bulk to create a river as it's called, that is, not a trickle but a big flow all at once down existing rivers.

Big fast flows in outback rivers reduce seepage and evaporation loss. Seepage loss is greatest while there is an ongoing trickle. Deep holding areas reduce evaporation.

Therefore it does not have to rain all the time in far NQ, to catch bulk water, and have a flow running via aqueduct most of the time.

Question is, will PM MT embrace opportunity to develop this newly productive water management infrastructure, for this food export nation?

There's an old saying" Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer." Tony it seems did not keep Malcolm nor Julia close enough to know their intent nor plotting.

The plotting continues while Australia burns in a quagmire of leaderless ineptitude.