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China’s environmental record goes up in smoke : Comments

By Asher Judah, published 27/8/2015

At present, China is home to the world’s largest dustbowl and 16 of the world’s 20 most polluted cities.

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diver dan, fair sentiment is what I express. Why are you so down on Chinese people? What have they done to you?

Where does your stated figure of 75 million sharks a year come from? LOL

Taiwanese crewed - Japanese owned longliners have fished sharks throughout the world ocean for 70 years, it's not the mainland Chinese that have been doing that fishing.
Mainland Chinese fishermen only started roaming the oceans about 15 years ago when China became more free and people could leave the country.

How about you provide data showing what where and when sharks actually eat.
I say that no such data exists, except maybe for shark attacks on humans.
How many white pointers and tiger sharks are taken annually for shark fin soup? You do not know, yet they are the dangerous man eater sharks you know we are talking about.

How about you describe what a starving wild shark looks like?
Do you think sharks are immune to starvation?

Shark numbers have to be declining due to shortage of their food. Most animals do not breed successfully when food is scarce.

And here is the best question ever. What is the importance of sharks in the ocean, as some biologists claim? What exactly is that importance, as known scientifically?

The many flocks of seabirds diving down eating small fish as bigger fish chased the small fish to the surface, while sharks took what they could during the frenzy, have virtually all vanished.

Ask older coastal people what coastal seabird life used to be like before, how many birds before, and what it is like now.

The SMH plays down the mortality. Dead mutton birds have been occurring from Mackay Queensland all the way to SA and around Tasmania. The original population was estimated at 100 million but is now a claimed 17 million.
The SMH does not report why these birds are not finding fish. Sharks are often not finding fish either and neither are Aus fishermen. Got the mental picture diver dan?
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/animals/dead-birds-not-just-a-freak-event-20131030-2wgzd.html

And fairy penguins....
http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/3227077/Little-blue-penguins-starve-to-death-at-sea

Google..... "starving whales"

And try...
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/05/0515_030515_fishdecline.html
Posted by JF Aus, Friday, 28 August 2015 4:37:37 PM
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JFAus.

*diver dan, fair sentiment is what I express. Why are you so down on Chinese people? What have they done to you?*

I'm not down on Chinese, I'm simple a loyal white Australian!

*Got the mental picture diver dan?*

Yep, got that alright .... See you in the shark fin soup!
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 28 August 2015 10:01:46 PM
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diver dan,

What has you being white, got to do with it?
Posted by JF Aus, Saturday, 29 August 2015 6:50:57 AM
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I'm so grateful to live in Australia where we are digging a new hole the size of Wales to extract more coal to send to India and China, and dredging the barrier reef to double the number of ships endangering it, and building new ports for those ships and... Per capita, Australia is a worse polluter than China. We too must stop destroying the environment in which we evolved, and which sustains us.
Posted by ybgirp, Monday, 31 August 2015 11:24:42 AM
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Gee, Asher, are you trying to say that the Chinese are only interested in getting rich? And they could not give a damn about the environment?

So why do trendy lefties like yourself want to import them into our country in such numbers that they will eventually breed out the whites, and then force their own values and attitudes (which you oppose) on Australia?
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 9:14:17 AM
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