China, the curse of the West. These bogans can't be trusted in their own back yard, how much less in our own!
These slimey Gogs from Magog, slide in under the banner of multiculturalism, welcomed by the dolts from the tribe of Canberra; praising the Chinese lords, laying Palm leaves on the road of the Chinese victory march.
"What abject short sighted fools are Australians"! The Chinese view.

Yes! If only they could use the brains they were born with they would decommission all of their hugely polluting coal fired power stations and replace them with nuclear power tomorrow!

Incidentally, all that raw sewage could be treated in cheap onsite power projects that #1, eliminate raw sewage from flowing anywhere,#2 powerup every home that doesn't yet have it with ultra reliable 24/7 cheap power,#3 produce among other things, safe reusable industrial water and sanitised carbon loaded soil improver!

However, one can be sure the anti-nuclear lobby will be there with bells on trying to prevent the clean up with the only "AFFORDABLE" means currently possible; baseload nuclear power! Rhrosty

China's economic development has lifted hundreds of millions of people from abject poverty in a single generation – the largest and fastest improvement in human welfare in history, far outstripping the industrial revolutions in Europe and North America. If most of your population is living below the breadline, as was the case in China in the 1970s, then you are going to prioritise economic and income growth even if it is at the expense of environmental destruction.

http://www.worldbank.org/en/country/china/overview

The early stages of industrialisation are usually dirty and messy. As countries become richer, they are less prepared to sacrifice environmental and social values for higher incomes. I think China is reaching this point now. It has a hell of a long way to go, and unfortunately totalitarian regimes have a poorer record on environmental and social protection than democracies, but I think it will start to reduce its most egregious environmental impacts

Rhosty ..your idea re nuclear power plants would, under normal circumstances, be progressive, however, Chinese can't be trusted with anything resembling safety.
This is a country which poisons its babies with deliberately contaminated baby formula.
Unwanted new born babies are fed to the dogs. We are not discussing humans here, they are truly Gogs from the country of Magog.
Even the sophisticated Japanese can't be trusted with nuclear reactors. Neither can the Russians, and neither can the USA. all have an abysmal history with nuclear energy.
Germany has pulled the pin on reactor power.
If humans could be trusted to do the right thing, then I agree with you: But sadly, they can't !

diver dan, how about some good Australian invented olivine?
Look, Chinese people helped develop Australia and many of the families have continued living here as Australians.
Why be so disrespectful of Chinese people?
China was a world leader hundreds of years before Australia was even 'discovered'.

Chinese are clever people.
After Marco Polo discovered China in the 1100's he went back to Europe with samples of many things, silk, spices, and even paper money.
When Europeans saw the paper money they considered it useless because they said it had no value, and it was not until 400 years later that Europe started using paper money for the first time.

Now in our own lifetime we have witnessed introduction of plastic money. And money that melts overnight on stock
markets.

Chinese people are wise, I see it today in news reports.
News Ltd has a 'news' report with Australia's climate man Flannery talking about olivine, and growing algae in 9 percent of the world oceans surface.
But wisely that 9 percent algae part of the story is not included in the duplicate news in China.

What I talk about here is an example of how dumbed down Australian media actually is. It's not just readers who are dumbed down in AUS.

Based on evidence of substance I have, growing algae over 9 percent of the oceans surface would increase ocean warmth in that immediate area of ocean, plus in other waters where currents could transport that warmth or part thereof.

In my opinion photosynthesis-linked warmth in ocean algae plant matter has not been measured and assessed in AGW IPCC and Kyoto associated science.

I think Prof Flannery has a lot to learn.
For a start, seaweed is the colloquial term for algae.
And I think this news of Professor Flannery is quite amazing.......
http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/seaweed-could-help-in-climate-fight/story-e6frfku9-1227499206980

China leaves out the 9 percent......
http://www.globalpost.com/article/6636331/2015/08/25/seaweed-has-potential-combat-climate-change-australian-environmentalist

Algae is now known as linked to warmth in Arctic waters at least.
In my opinion algae is linked to ocean warmth worldwide.
I think the problem is algae, not CO2.
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/algae-accelerate-arctic-warming-18929

It is inevitable impact of algae be realized.

JFAus.

Well, for a man like yourself that advances a pro-Chinese sentiment ,after fifty years of diving and ocean research, I would have to interpret your conclusions as evidence of mental deficiency.

I'll rest my case on the strength of the death seventy five million sharks a year to satisfy a lust for shark-fin soup! ..Just for starters.

diver dan, fair sentiment is what I express. Why are you so down on Chinese people? What have they done to you?

Where does your stated figure of 75 million sharks a year come from? LOL

Taiwanese crewed - Japanese owned longliners have fished sharks throughout the world ocean for 70 years, it's not the mainland Chinese that have been doing that fishing.
Mainland Chinese fishermen only started roaming the oceans about 15 years ago when China became more free and people could leave the country.

How about you provide data showing what where and when sharks actually eat.
I say that no such data exists, except maybe for shark attacks on humans.
How many white pointers and tiger sharks are taken annually for shark fin soup? You do not know, yet they are the dangerous man eater sharks you know we are talking about.

How about you describe what a starving wild shark looks like?
Do you think sharks are immune to starvation?

Shark numbers have to be declining due to shortage of their food. Most animals do not breed successfully when food is scarce.

And here is the best question ever. What is the importance of sharks in the ocean, as some biologists claim? What exactly is that importance, as known scientifically?

The many flocks of seabirds diving down eating small fish as bigger fish chased the small fish to the surface, while sharks took what they could during the frenzy, have virtually all vanished.

Ask older coastal people what coastal seabird life used to be like before, how many birds before, and what it is like now.

The SMH plays down the mortality. Dead mutton birds have been occurring from Mackay Queensland all the way to SA and around Tasmania. The original population was estimated at 100 million but is now a claimed 17 million.
The SMH does not report why these birds are not finding fish. Sharks are often not finding fish either and neither are Aus fishermen. Got the mental picture diver dan?
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/animals/dead-birds-not-just-a-freak-event-20131030-2wgzd.html

And fairy penguins....
http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/3227077/Little-blue-penguins-starve-to-death-at-sea

Google..... "starving whales"

And try...
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/05/0515_030515_fishdecline.html

JFAus.

*diver dan, fair sentiment is what I express. Why are you so down on Chinese people? What have they done to you?*

I'm not down on Chinese, I'm simple a loyal white Australian!

*Got the mental picture diver dan?*

Yep, got that alright .... See you in the shark fin soup!

diver dan,

What has you being white, got to do with it?

I'm so grateful to live in Australia where we are digging a new hole the size of Wales to extract more coal to send to India and China, and dredging the barrier reef to double the number of ships endangering it, and building new ports for those ships and... Per capita, Australia is a worse polluter than China. We too must stop destroying the environment in which we evolved, and which sustains us.

Gee, Asher, are you trying to say that the Chinese are only interested in getting rich? And they could not give a damn about the environment?

So why do trendy lefties like yourself want to import them into our country in such numbers that they will eventually breed out the whites, and then force their own values and attitudes (which you oppose) on Australia?