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Why the NRA has Australia in its sights : Comments
By Andrew Leigh, published 23/7/2015The rarity of mass shootings is almost certainly a direct result of the gun buyback.
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Posted by mikk, Sunday, 26 July 2015 8:41:40 PM
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You were right LEGO to raise the problem of comparing suicide rates and gun crime between countries. That is what makes the Australian experiment so telling. Most of the other factors of different cultures and law enforcement were set aside. The fact is suicide rates went down virtually on cue after the buyback and the incidents of mass shootings which were occurring annually ground to a halt. Only the most ' blind and wilful ignorant' could ever claim there was absolutely no connection those some hear appear to be attempting just that.
Speaking of onthebeach ... how does someone quote John R. Lott, Jr without acknowledging he is one of the most strident pro gun advocates in the world. His research has been found to be at best sloppy at worse fabricated. His book 'More Guns: Less Crime' was systematically taken apart by UNSW academic Tim Lamberet and it is worth a read. http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~lambert/guns/lott/lott.pdf I will leave the last word to a brilliant Aussie critic name Jim Jefferies. The man may be a pisspot and pretty rough around the edges by he is a fine example of a comic with an eye for the absurd. His brilliant routine made news in a number of national US papers. Warning – heaps of swearing. https://youtu.be/HZFLk5L70MQ Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 26 July 2015 8:42:35 PM
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Beat ya by one minute there Steele. sorry :P
Watch. Its funny because its true Posted by mikk, Sunday, 26 July 2015 8:46:10 PM
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Dear mikk,
Lol Great minds.... Better get rid of that pesky 's' we both used. http://youtu.be/HZFLk5L70MQ And I agree, brilliant! Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 26 July 2015 9:01:08 PM
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Bugsy,
The only conspiracy would be by the secretive gun control activists who resolutely refuse to disclose the barest details of their 'organisation', but always have the begging bowl out for undisclosed sums received and purposes to which the money is applied. Rusty Catheta, "I would like to see *more* enforcement of certain points: I would like to see possession of *any* unregistered weapon by *anybody* as an offense. I would like to see possession of *any* weapon (registered or not) by someone unlicensed to do so as an offense" "I would like to see *more* enforcement of certain points: I would like to see possession of *any* unregistered weapon by *anybody* as an offense. I would like to see possession of *any* weapon (registered or not) by someone unlicensed to do so as an offense." ?! If you are the holder of a firearms licence as you imply you are, it is odd that you seem unaware of the regulations that have been around for yonks and throughout Australia. There are other inconsistencies too. For instance, anyone with a firearms licence would be aware that quite apart from the costs and useless of the data gained, because it is the UNregistered guns owned by UNlicensed criminals that are used for crime, any slight alteration to a barrel and use will change the marks of the rifling. Further, police stats even demonstrate that the few firearms stolen from licensed owners do NOT feature in crimes. You are likely flying a false flag. However what matters is your ignorance of the existing regulations and your proposed 'solutions' are ill-directed and nonsense. There is nothing you have suggested that would deter or prevent any criminal act, because criminals do not buy from legitimate sources. Are you aware what that means? Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 26 July 2015 10:18:58 PM
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Rusty,
You should go on the stage; with a routine like: "I would like *all* registered weapons to have barrel-striations on record, and all future legal weapons to have deliberate scorings in the barrel that mark every round distinctively and uniquely. I think all factory rounds and shot should be tagged by minor metallurgical inclusions that allow routine identification of the batch and likely distribution and sale points. I think absolutely none of the above would impede a single legitimate Australian gun user." you'd be a hit on the club circuit. Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 26 July 2015 10:36:36 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZFLk5L70MQ