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Private school, public cost : Comments

By Chris Bonnor and Bernie Shepherd, published 22/7/2015

A couple of years ago the combination of subsidies and fee income saw the resources of private schools put public schools in the shade.

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This is another selective use of data attempting to show that Government schools are badly treated. The authors did grudgingly admit that " It is true that on average, private schools still get less public money than government schools".

An example better illustrates the true picture.

I live in the ACT and send/sent my kids to the best performing school (academically) on the north side of Canberra. The school happens to be a K to Year 12 Independent School, and anyone familiar with the ACT education sector will know which school it is.

The school according to the My School website had a Net Recurrent Income in 2013 of $15585 per student, of which $12743 per student (or 82 per cent) came from fees contributed by parents. This compares with Net Recurrent Income of about $13,000 for typical Government primary schools in the ACT, about $15000 for Government high schools, and about $16000 for colleges (Years 11 and 12). The parental contribution to Government schools is virtually nothing. The differences in academic results, however, are chalk and cheese, with the result that to get my kids into what I believed was the best school I had to enrol them virtually at birth.

I don't doubt that parental SES has an effect on educational outcomes but the school itself is also a big factor. It is also clear any advantage non-government schools have in extra funding per capita is both a lot less than the apologists for the Government sector claim, and entirely due to the fact that the parents are prepared to put their hands into their pockets.

If the authors truly want more equal educational opportunity, they should be pushing for more equal funding for non-Government schools so that they will be more accessible to lower income households. There also needs to be a better mechanism to allow the transfer of more resources and more students to better performing schools.
Posted by Bren, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 10:04:46 AM
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With the world already exploding with the burden of humans, why should the public have to pay in the first place for the needs and wants of those who make children (with the exception of those who were raped), including their schooling?

Nevertheless, promises were made and need to be kept regarding those children already born or conceived. As for the future, no further promises should be made for public-sponsored education of any kind and public schools need to be phased out.

Until then, existing parents should be given educational-vouchers that are equivalent to and fully cover the cost of public schools - they could then spend it as they wish on a public school or as part-payment towards a private school or on private tutors and books, etc.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 10:13:02 AM
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we know Chris more money more money. Simple fact is that private schools do far better with close to half the money of the secular schools. Results have far more to do with teaching standards, failed secular dogmas and kids behaviour. Until you address these obvious flaws you will continue to make excuses for poor performance.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 10:44:41 AM
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The better off pay more tax!

And possibly are paying for the education of folks who like many single mums, don't pay any tax at all?

And many of the disadvantaged kids, who attend independent schools, have their fees paid by other parents!

Moreover, we regularly critique wealthy parents who use public health or public schools; almost as if they as higher paying taxpayers, don't have the same rights accorded non taxpayers as a birthright entitlement!?

The obvious answer to this eternal conundrum, is to stop funding all schools and instead give the same averaged amount per pupil, to every parent as a education endowment?

Which for the purposes of the act, should be added to your taxable income the way benefits and pensions are now!

And then allow the newly empowered parent to choose which school the kids attend, on the basis of apples for apples comparisons, published merit!

This money no longer routed through state government coffers, would likely force state governments to grant complete autonomy to school districts and or school principals?

Which would mean, they could finally clean out the union protected dross, if only to compete on a level playing field, with other institutions for the education dollar; or parental voucher!?

And a must do, in order to fully advantage in any fair comparison, our best and brightest!

Which by the way are our best possible future!

By the way, every ministerial desk should have three signs on them!

1#,It's the economy stupid! 2#, The buck stops here! 3#, Keep it simple stupid!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 10:46:09 AM
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Introduce equal vouchers for all subject to means testing.
There will thus be more money to spend on education as well as the market to accomodate true parental choice. Government schools versus private church schools versus private non-profit non-religious schools versus for-profit schools versus home schooling.
Posted by Edward Carson, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 6:23:42 PM
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What the authors are trying to hide is that if one looks at the total subsidy per pupil in private schools from the state, it is much less than the subsidy per pupil in public schools.

Thus the more private school pupils there are, the more money per pupil there is available per public school pupil.

Simple maths that if the authors had a decent maths education they might understand.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 8:19:07 PM
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