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AFP used 'cyberweapons' supplied by company supporting 'human rights abusing' countries : Comments

By Murray Hunter, published 14/7/2015

Hacking Team has sold its offensive products to Sudan even though the United Nations has placed an embargo on the country.

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The AFP and all Australian security forces should have the best means available to them to 'spy' on undesirables wishing to harm us. It doesn't matter who else uses the same thing or how they use it. The inference that Australian authorities would misuse these tools is insulting and ridiculous. But, then, there are these Australians who do seem more concerned with the "rights" of our enemies than they are with our own.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 10:57:41 AM
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I suppose one could make a rational case for hacking which remains a criminal offence when used against the government and or it agencies; but not so when those same agencies used it to spy on the ordinary citizen.

Who are entitled to their most basic human right of privacy and harmless predilections or flaws?

Its already enough that marketing companies have access to our metadata to in effect, allow them to target our preferences or viewing habits/peccadilloes, without our inherent right to privacy, but particularly, inside our own homes being secretly violated by, not criminal hackers, but the AFP, in shades of 1984 and big brother!

Who in their hypothecated activities may be no better than the criminal element they are charged with protecting us from?

Or is it a case of in a proper police action, hacking the hackers, or those who lift our metadata uninvited, for mere merchandising purposes alone, with vastly superior and completely covert equipment?
I'd like to think the latter was the case!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 11:33:23 AM
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Earth to Murray.

Yes possibly 100s of companies sell malware for legitimate and legal law enforcement use.

That includes agencies in Malaysia the country you live in - including https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Malaysia_Police .

Looking forward to you outing the human rights record of Malaysian authorities.
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 2:36:09 PM
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Murray Hunter says the AFP must be asked the following questions:

1.Why does the AFP need offensive software or cyber weapons?
2.Who were they used against, and why?
3.Why did the Australian Government deal with companies that had little or no concern about human rights?
4.Why did the AFP terminate the contract with Hacking Team when this information was about to become public knowledge?

I'll answer those question for you, because you aren't going to get a reply from the AFP (but they might now hack into your server)

1. Well duh, what do you think its used for?
2. None of your business Nosey Parker. You know operational matters are not revealed publically.
3. The company probably had the best software package for the tasks required. Why let the nasty countries get the leading edge, just for principals?
4. Are you certain there is a relationship between the two events?

Hey Murray your turn to answer - would you be happier knowing potential terrorists and spies are able to hack into our security, but because we take the high moral ground, we have no ability to hack into theirs?
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 5:24:03 PM
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I thought big brother and its unique opportunity was to create an environment where you have full control of their respective fields.

Governments watching their own personal experiences, which makes a good leader in providing the economy importance of everything collective.

Iam just wondering if anyone has the underlying asset's to why things have to be contacted via social media in order to have gravity in political message's.

Philip
Posted by government.com, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 6:20:29 PM
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"Iam just wondering if anyone has the underlying asset's to why things have to be contacted via social media in order to have gravity in political message's"

Earthling's message siphoned - stored 4ever - ocular on ceiling watching U ...
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 8:42:23 PM
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The usual troll suspects attack again.

The reality is that the central bankers of this planet own and control our Govts and most of our corporations. Greece is witness to this reality when the majority of the population voted against more debt and austerity and the bankers got their way.

Note that soon 70% of our jobs will be replaced by robots. Humans are becoming redundant. The lie of over population and climate change is being used as a ruse to bring in this global tyranny.

I think the elite's plan is to drastically reduce the world's population and breed their new super race.

Many will become victims of their own treachery.
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 8:59:34 PM
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Yes it is the Ancient Greeks, having invented higher mathematics, who are complicit in the Great Fiendish BANKSTER'S plot to dominate Modern Greeks.

It is the BANKSTERS who have reduced the once proud Greek Army to these silly people who look like Daffy Ducks in bunny slippers https://youtu.be/ZEsagktWxpM .

It is the BANKSTERS

the BANKSTERS

BANKSTERS..

Bye Bye Arjay ;-)
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 9:44:06 PM
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Pete you are in denial yet again. Why wasn't the will of the Greek people honoured by the Central Bankers who create debt from nothing?

" The usual troll suspects attack again.

The reality is that the central bankers of this planet own and control our Govts and most of our corporations. Greece is witness to this reality when the majority of the population voted against more debt and austerity and the bankers got their way.

Note that soon 70% of our jobs will be replaced by robots. Humans are becoming redundant. The lie of over population and climate change is being used as a ruse to bring in this global tyranny.

I think the elite's plan is to drastically reduce the world's population and breed their new super race.

Many will become victims of their own treachery."

Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 8:59:34
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 10:29:31 PM
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Hey Arjay, the will of the Greek people was to get Europe to continually roll out the Euros with no expectation of ever getting paid back.

If your statement: "the reality is that the central bankers of this planet own and control our Govts and most of our corporations" is true, then it's too late to do anything about it. It is what it is, accept it, because you sure as heck can't change it.

On to your other paranoiac statements: (1)"Note that soon 70% of our jobs will be replaced by robots. Humans are becoming redundant."

You really have to stop watching those Terminator movies, they are getting into your head.

(2)"The lie of over population and climate change is being used as a ruse to bring in this global tyranny."

The lie of over population? Really, do you have different figures than what we have been lead to believe? However, I will go along with you that the whole climate change fear mongering industry is up to something sinister.

(3) I think the elite's plan is to drastically reduce the world's population and breed their new super race." Reduce the population maybe, but what good would a super-race be if the Elites are trying to control everyone? Wouldn't it be better for them to have an unlimited supply of dumbed down slaves doing their bidding? The Elites would be the super-race if all others were subjugated. Why would the Elites risk breeding a super-race that may eventually turn on them in revolt?

Arjay, if I believed the world was half as evil as you do, I'd be moving into the countryside where I could grow my own food, drop off the grid, and I'd definitely stop using a computer ASAP.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 9:20:54 AM
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