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Australia’s terror paranoia is unfounded : Comments
By Christopher Michaelsen, published 12/9/2005Christopher Michaelsen argues there are good reasons why we need not expect a terrorism attack in Australia.
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Posted by numbat, Monday, 12 September 2005 2:34:44 PM
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'hate for America, Jews and love for Bin Laden'
There's so much of this attitude around - people somehow equate people who don't like war to somehow....loving terrorists? It's...really creepy. I mean, what the hell kind of logic is that, really? Let's face it, Australia is a far away country with a tiny population, no ones that interested in us. If I was a terrorist I sure as hell wouldn't bother. Then again, we did side with the US...I guess that increases our chances of being a target from 0% to 0.1%. You know what scares me more? Soap. Every day I get into the shower and think: "This is it. This is the day I'm going to slip on the soap and die." So I've fortified my soap holder with six inches of airtight, waterproof, bulletproof steel, ordered random searches for everyone entering my bathroom, and electronic tags for suspected suicide soapers. Of course the crazy liberal left will say I'm taking away civil bathroom liberties by enclosing security cameras at all angles and detaining suspected soapers for up to 14 days with no charge, but I recognise the risk and I act, you see. Can't be too careful. Posted by spendocrat, Monday, 12 September 2005 3:53:32 PM
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The terrorist have won the opening battles of this war on terrorism. They are winning because western governments are using the fear factor to get reelected and because average Joe can not realistic evaluation of the risk. While governments like ours fuel the fire so will there will be terrorist.
Posted by Kenny, Monday, 12 September 2005 5:40:49 PM
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‘Protection of the community is clearly, not a high priority in your scheme of things’
Dear anti-green (and Col Rouge and Plantagenet), the protection of the community, and more important, of the individual is a high priority in my scheme of things. And that’s why I would very much like to see the adoption of a bill of rights in this country, so that the rights of every member of the community were better protected. But my piece on the terror threat is not about this topic. The only point I’d like to make in relation to ‘protection’ and repressive anti-terror laws is that it appears that those who advocate draconian measures often have no idea of what difference they will make to the terrorist threat. How far are such measures based on fair estimates of actual consequences rather than on the felt need for reprisal or the comforts of purely symbolic action? And it is exactly effectiveness that makes many of the old counterterror-measures and also the new proposals highly questionable. Let me give you an example: A reduction in due process guarantees, for instance, may make it more likely that terrorist suspects will be convicted. And that, people will say, is surely a good thing. Is it? What reason is there to suppose that our security is enhanced by making the conviction and punishment of suspects more likely? We know that the conviction and punishment of an Al-Qaeda fanatic, for example, will have no general deterrent effect; if anything, it will have the opposite effect - making it more rather than less likely that the country punishing the suspect is subject to terrorist attack. Of course, this is not a reason for not punishing the perpetrators of murderous attacks, but the reasons for punishing them are reasons of justice, not security (via general deterrence). and btw, I couldn’t agree more, spendocrat. And Adam G's video today doesn't change anything, really. Cheers, CM Ps. Magic jess, I spent 25 years of my life living in Europe and cannot confirm your experiences/observations. Posted by chrismic, Monday, 12 September 2005 6:01:08 PM
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The whole foundation and objective of this article went up in smoke today.
The article "We don't have much to worry about here.. " (Supporting fact 1, supporting fact 2, supporting fact 3) But now we had a video in which an Islamist declares "Los Angeles and MELBOURNE" are targets. So much for the authors well put together bit of 'bs' : Perhaps some scrutiny of Revelation would be in order Chapter 4 1After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this." ..... To find out the exciting next step in history... read the rest urselves :) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=73&chapter=4&version=31 Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 12 September 2005 7:16:32 PM
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Dear BOAZ_David,
let me quote the SMH and the A-G instead: Despite its likely authenticity, Mr Ruddock cautioned against giving the message too much weight. "Relevant agencies are currently assessing the statements made in the video but at this stage indications are that it is authentic," he told Parliament. "But that does not mean the statements in it are anything more than rhetoric." "It also appeared on its face to be little more than anti-Western rhetoric. The information contained in the video does not provide any basis to change the threat levels to Australia or Australian interests overseas." I don't agree with the A-G often, but couldn't do so more on this. Posted by chrismic, Monday, 12 September 2005 7:52:02 PM
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Someone will say that only a few commit these acts, yes and the majority are silent, very very silent. These quiet ones will do as they are ordered when the time comes,as they see themselves as obedient moslems. They have no other choice other than death for themselves and their families at the hands of their own. numbat