Nothing new. NB Nazi Germany and Britain's anti-Semitism in the Middle Ages.

I feel a little BDS deja vu since http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=17450 - a whole 6 days ago.

However, can the forces of AC darkness rise to the bait?

That was then this is now, and what would we give if only all our Australian made products could be so labeled! Look, many others just want to misrepresent their products as ours!

Without question we to a virtual generic man are proud of what we make and or, the clean green quality it represents!
Are you really that ashamed of what you make or what that made by Jews label, really represents?

People everywhere are entitled to exercise their rights as they may but particularly where that includes by peaceful means.
The old hip pocket nerve is the only one that seems to twitch when Israel is dealing with a less well resourced less well armed people?

And reminiscent of the S.S. where genuine empathy and integrity seems to be missing toward a displaced people whose property they "acquired"?

During the WW1 German sausage became Belgium sausage and German shepherds became Alsatians.

If the sale of Jewish products supports the continuing annexation of formerly Palestine land; then it can only help to limit that and the virtual gerrymander which is all that keeps Netanyahu in power; then the boycott has to be a good thing and long may it continue; until there is a currently resisted two state solution on the table!?

And the less liked the boycott is the more effective it will likely become !?
Rhrosty.

So the racists are now fighting from the back foot, challenged by the anti-racist EU stance they are rushing to redefine the issue of Palestine from one of protecting their original racist enclave from extinction of its “right to exist” to one of projecting their colonising programme way outside the walls of Israel in the rest of Palestine.

Go to http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/mapstellstory.html and scroll slightly down to the four maps showing clearly how they have encroached already, virtually wiping Palestine off the face of the earth. Google “Israel Judea Samaria” to see the head of steam they are working up for their ambition to finalise their grab for the whole of Palestine. Now the world has shifted from nervously indulgent to fed up with being held to ransom by the likes of Netanyahu, David Singer and the rest of the racist crowd who have already labelled Kerry and the EU as “Jew-haters” along with everyone else who baulks at the prospect of going to war (which is the racists’ bottom line) on behalf of their conquests. We had it with racist South Africa when it was faced with anti-colonialist movements outside its borders and we don’t need it with racist Israel.

Note how the Zionists shift their term backwards and forwards between “Israel” and, libellously, “the Jews”. For Mr Singer it’s now “the Jews” so he can indulge in terms like “Jew-hater” which used to be “anti-Semite”. Every time they call Israel "the Jews" they are insulting Jews who share full allegiance to nations like Australia to which they are born or have migrated.

Regardless of the motivation behind, this labelling-requirement is good news for Europeans who like Israel and its produce, who will now be able to purchase Israeli goods without fearing that they might accidentally have originated in the occupied territories. It is also good news for decent Israeli producers that are uninvolved in the occupation, who will now be able to sell more to Europe.

G'day EmperorJulian

You are a poor excuse for the favoured AC.

Certainly Israel can be proud of its exports.

The EmperorJulian's of this world might prefer Palestinian exports - mainly poorly aimed missiles funded by rich, fat, Gulf Arabs.

Cheers

#Emperor Julian

I had a look at your maps.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/mapstellstory.html

The one titled "Palestine 1946" is false since it does not include Transjordan whose territory comprised 76.9% of Palestine in 1946. Last time I looked it had been renamed Jordan and not one Jew lives there. If this part of Palestine "has been wiped off the face of the map" it is because the Arabs changed its name. Suckers like you swallow this nonsense hook, line and sinker.

Loved your following comment:
"Note how the Zionists shift their term backwards and forwards between “Israel” and, libellously, “the Jews”. For Mr Singer it’s now “the Jews” so he can indulge in terms like “Jew-hater” which used to be “anti-Semite. Every time they call Israel "the Jews" they are insulting Jews who share full allegiance to nations like Australia to which they are born or have migrated.”.

You are under an illusion.

If you look at the Map 1 you will see the UN Partition Plan correctly designates the remaining area of the Mandate to be partitioned as "proposed Jewish land" and "proposed Arab land".

Any idea why it does not say "proposed Palestinian land"?

This is and always has been an "Arab-Jewish conflict"

Even in 1922 the League of Nations spoke of the "existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine".

Any idea why they did not mention the "palestinian people"?

Arabs have 22 States but lots of them live in Australia. Greeks and Italians likewise.

Why shouldn't Jews have the same freedom of choice?

The more you write the stupider you look No wonder you are ashamed to put your real name to your error ridden rants.

Pot,Kettle,Black Dave it all gonna come crashing down around your ears one day

Most of OLO's knuckle-draggin anti-Semites are white trash, Fourth Reich dreamers - possibly all.

Meanwhile - some of Australia's keenest minds have been pondering the What if (?) the Middle East descends into an Islamic nuclear sectarian Armageddon eg. a future nuclear Iran vs a nuclear Saudi Arabia.

In that case Israel is welcome to move here.

Australia is stable politically, no nasty borders, English speaking and has a relatively low level of anti-Semitism.

Northern Western Australia is under-developed and China wants it for mass rice growing. Great place for an Israel Mark 2. Similar hot climate, lots of sacred sites and the clincher is lots of Ord River water.

The Israelis have the talent to rebuild Australia's manufacturing sector. Israel could even transfer the Dimona complex to Oz bringing nuclear industry. And don't forget those handy Jericho III ballistic missiles to defend Oz https://youtu.be/q0iSq_2tLB0 .

Netanyahu is a bugger to get on with (give him the democratic flick). But the Jewish nation have many center-leftists who Prime Ministers-to-be Tanya or Julie Bishop could negotiate with.

Nothing like international brotherhood to foil the anti-Semites.

Hi David,

I look forward to the day when I can buy Israeli goods in any store. And Palestinian goods too, for that matter.

Best wishes,

Joe

I like your idea Pete, which if carried through to its logical conclusion would separate those who want to "acquire" Palestinian land from those who want another choice; which would then enable them to label all their produce and manufacture as made in Australia by Australians!

And good for Australia!

There's no requirement to use the term new Australians or ethnic identity when labeling produce or production coming from Australia!
Cheers, Rhrosty.

Thanks Brave Sir Rhrosty

Now to invent perpetual Cold Fusion and compulsory World Peace :)

Regards

Pete

Re plantagenet: I expect Jews would as always be welcome to live in Australia as equals with the rest of us. Not, though, as a racist enclave somewhere without full, uncompromised Australian allegiance.

Re David Singer: Jordan is not Palestine. That myth to which Mr Singer doggedly clings was promulgated by the prewar British Empire and its allies without the consent of the people of either Jordan or Palestine. The 1946 map shows Jewish settlement in Paslestine, mostly legitimised by local acceptance as part of the region's life, not overlords. The other maps show progressive Zionist encroachment in Palestine starting with the Nakba. Trying to wish away the Palestinian people is the same as the British invaders calling Australia terra nullius. (I have explained the origin of my pen-name before, which I am locked into on Discus sites. I have now set up a new email address and am seeking a way to convert in OLO to my real name which is Dion Giles, but have to find a way not to have to move away from my mailer, Eudora [old version before the deterioration], which is vastly superior to any others I am aware of. I am perfectly comfortable to oppose racism under my own name.

Hahaha, I wouldn't worry about it, David.

This will be the biggest screw up by the educated elite since they voted in Barack Obama in the USA.

My perception is that most people despise the Arabs and admire the Israelis. Forcing the Israelis to label their food so that people in supermarkets know it is from Israel, works both ways. I for one always go into the Max Brenner coffee house whenever I shop in Parramatta, just to stick it to the Muslims. To his credit, former Labor PM Kevin Rudd did the same thing.

The Jews could stick it to their trendy European enemies by having large yellow stars in cans of fruit juice, just to remind the Euros who despise the Jews just what sort of mindsets they are emulating by boycotting Israeli produce. Jewish shop owners could even have some fun tossing some broken glass outside of their shops (with safety barricades) just to remind the Euros of Krystalnicht.

Bring it on, I say. Like the Australians, The euros may never have had the opportunity to vote to oppose the multiculturalism or gay marriage that was imposed upon them by their own ruling class, so here is a great way to stick it to their own political class and display who's side they are really on. Next time our Muslim enemies commit another massacre of European tourists, just watch the spike in sales of Israeli products in European supermarkets.

Dear Joe,

<<I look forward to the day when I can buy Israeli goods in any store.>>

There are already quite a few Israeli quality food products in Coles, Woolworths and IGA.
Enjoy!

Dear LEGO,

Israeli products (other than weapons) are already and have always been marked "Made in Israel". The problem was that other products that did not come from Israel, but rather from its occupied territories, were also marked the same, so people could not tell the difference - now this is to be corrected so that those who want to buy Israeli produce can be sure that it is indeed so.

I think Davids probably right about this measure being designed in a way that allows people to not choose goods made by Jews in Palestine.

But really is that a crime?
If not why should it be considered one?
Why shouldn't people be able to vote with their money and conscience?

The freedom to vote with your money and conscience is a far more important right.
David himself says this measure will amount to nothing (except embolden "Jew-haters").

This topic actually also has some relation to the secretive TPP.
They are planning to remove all country of origin labeling, as well as preventing products from being labelled GMO if they contain such.
... Among other things.

In this context I oppose any such product labeling regimen that does not show country of origin and whether GMO is present.

As for who makes it, it doesn't really bother me that much, though I wouldn't wish to support Israel if supporting them means I support a continuation of war crimes against an oppressed people.

Nice adding the WRH link Emperor Julian.
David says the info's incorrect, but I really like Michael Rivero's radio show anyway. Just waiting for it to come up.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1CtXVx2Q-tpb9pr24SQbwA
(sorry can't shorten the link and make it work)

You still haven't answered my last questions to you, Armchair Cretin. Are you really so afraid of admitting you were wrong about something?

//If HCN is so non-toxic:
# Why do the American government use it for judicial executions? More to the point, how is it possible to execute somebody with a non-toxic compound?
# How did Himmler, Göring and Rommel use it to commit suicide?
# Why was Allen Elias, CEO of Evergreen Resources, convicted of knowing endangerment for his role in the HCN poisoning of employee Scott Dominguez?//

#Emperor Julian

Instead of admitting you have been suckered - you justify your continued reliance on the 1946 false map of "Palestine" with this comment:
"Jordan is not Palestine. That myth to which Mr Singer doggedly clings was promulgated by the prewar British Empire and its allies without the consent of the people of either Jordan or Palestine"

This "myth" was promulgated by all 51 members of the League of Nations who simultaneously endorsed the Mandate for Palestine as well as the Mandates for Syria and Lebanon and the Mandate for Mesopotamia - giving the Arabs 99.90% of the captured Ottoman Empire territory and the Jews 0.01%.

The 51 members were: Albania,Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, British India, Bulgaria, Canada,Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia,Finland, France, Greece, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Italy, Japan, Kingdom of Serbs,Croats, and Slovenes, Latvia, Liberia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Persia, Peru, Poland, Portugal,Republic of China, Romania, Siam, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Union of South Africa, United Kingdom, Uruguay, and Venezuela.

The Arabs were represented at the 1919 Peace Conference in Versailles by Emir Faisal, Rustum Haidar, Nuri as-Said, Captain Pisani T.E. Lawrence, and Captain Tahsin Qadri

Do you believe international law formulated in the 1920's can be dismissed with this throwaway proclamation in 1964:
"The Balfour Declaration, the Mandate system and all that has been based upon them are considered fraud"

Do you believe these people can have another go in 1968 and state:
"The Balfour Declaration, the Palestine Mandate, and everything that has been based on them, are deemed null and void."

If you think this is how international law operates - you are seriously mistaken.

Understand these indisputable facts:
1. Transjordan was part of the Mandate for Palestine from 1920 until 1946.
2. Transjordan comprised 76.9% of the territory within which the Jewish National Home was to be reconstituted - which right was "postponed or withheld" in Transjordan in 1922 - but not in Gaza,Judea or Samaria.
4. In 1946 such Jewish right was permanently ended when Transjordan became a Jew-free sovereign independent Arab State.

The reason I'm ignoring you is because you're nitpicking at me so you can find some reason to abuse me, and you've already said you hope I die.
If you have some information you'd like to share then come out and say it, don't let me stop you.
Just don't expect me to put the noose around my own neck for you after you have abused me.

How bout you answer my question too?
How much compassion do the Jewish people deserve if they themselves helped to provoke that war with Germany?

Because for me right...

Germany and Israel are sitting in a bar.
Germany is a big strong bloke of 110kgs.
Israel is a little bloke of 65kgs.

In the case that -

Germany comes over for no reason and starts pushing Israel around, who was just minding his business sipping his beer quietly.

- Then I stick up for Israel.

But in the case that -

Little Israel comes into the bar shooting his mouth off saying "Germany I am going to give you an ass-whooping you won't soon forget."
- And Germany slowly gets up off his chair goes over to Israel and punches him out cold.

Then Israel gets what he deserved for getting lippy and shooting his mouth off..

The suffering of innocent Jews and others is not lost on me, I'm not inhumane.
But you should take it up with the Zionist leaders, who caused the problems not blame everyone else.

I don't support what Hitler did.
If I saw Jews as a threat to the nation I'd have simply kicked you all out.

You're trying to lay blame after the fact.

//The reason I'm ignoring you is because//

You don't want to admit you've ever been wrong about anything, ever. Religious fundamentalists argue the same way.

//How much compassion do the Jewish people deserve if they themselves helped to provoke that war with Germany?//

What, by being Jewish? The Shoah was not a war against the Jewish people: it was genocide, a crime against humanity and the antithesis of jus ad bellum (the right to go to war) and jus in bello (right conduct within war).

//Little Israel comes into the bar shooting his mouth off saying "Germany I am going to give you an ass-whooping you won't soon forget."
- And Germany slowly gets up off his chair goes over to Israel and punches him out cold.

Then Israel gets what he deserved for getting lippy and shooting his mouth off.//

This might be a valid analogy if the state of Israel had existed prior to WWII, but it wasn't created until 1948. A more accurate analogy would go a bit like this:

Germany is sitting in a bar but Israel isn't there because he hasn't been born yet. Germany is in the mood to punch somebody, and there are bunch of Jews sitting quietly by themselves in a corner trying to avoid the persecution that they are used to. Germany decides they're a bunch of weirdoes and take it upon himself to coward-punch the weirdo out of them. Thankfully a bunch of burly Allies are sitting in the bar watching this disgusting display of cowardly bullying, and step in to give Germany a fair kicking. And there is much rejoicing.

//But you should take it up with the Zionist leaders, who caused the problems//

No, the Nazis caused the problems. You are victim-blaming. I hear the same language used about rape: 'it's all the woman's fault, she was behaving provocatively, she caused the problem'. No, it was the rapist cünt that caused the problem. Blaming Jews for the Shoah or rape-victims for rape is like saying victims of home invasions only have themselves to blame because live in a house.

It's stupid and offensive.

//You're trying to lay blame after the fact.//

Yes. Laying blame before the fact violates causality and logic.

Armchair Critic

Just look in the mirror.

You're a low life drop kick.

While the maps I cited show plainly that the "Jewish homeland" of Israel dictated by the UN after the Nakba has been merely a foothold from which the Zionist racists have grabbed the rest of Palestine from the sea to the Jordanian border, I must rebut claims that "the Jews" (whatever that term is supposed to mean) started the two world wars.

It's plain massively recorded historical fact that only an idiot or a neoNazi would deny that the Krauts, not "the Jews", launched both wars on the world, all on their own. The first began when they attacked Belgium which was not at war and the second began when they stormed into Poland which was not at war. The objective of the attack on Belgium was to seize a corridor for aggression against France and the objective of the attack on Poland was to grab a corridor for aggression against the nations to the east for Lebensraum.

For World War II the best confirming references include Hitler's "Mein Kampf" (available from Amazon) and the top secret meeting of key Nazis in May 1939 plotting aggression against their neighbours to the east and west (http://library2.lawschool.cornell.edu/donovan/pdf/Batch_2_pdfs/Vol_IV_8_04.pdf ). The aggresionn against Belgium was all over the media of the day and in accounts in Wikipedia and Encyclopedia Britannica. An excellent accpount of this crime is at http://www.bl.uk/world-war-one/articles/civilian-atrocities-german-1914 - something for apologists to read to know why Versailles was far, far too lenient.

Toni,
Israel's creation in 1948 relates to a border on a map.
Its land, not people.

The people most certainly did exist before that.

So explain this to me then.

http://google.com.au/search?q=judea+declares+war+on+germany&biw=1920&bih=969&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=2BaTVffHJ47c8AXK7qHgDw&sqi=2&ved=0CBwQsAQ&gws_rd=ssl#gws_rd=ssl&imgrc=_

Please note the headlines.

JUDEA DECLARES WAR ON GERMANY
All the Jews Of The World Unite

There's your provocation.
That right there is Israel going into the bar shooting his mouth off.

Somebody else mentioned Pot, Kettle, Black

Please Note:

BOYCOTT GERMAN GOODS
BOYCOTT ALL GERMAN GOODS
BOYCOTT GERMAN INDUSTRY
DON'T BUY GERMAN GOODS

(So it's alright for Israel to boycott other countries when it feels it's necessary, but when others do it to Israel then it's anti-semitic.
Just exactly how the hell you people abusing me are going to come up with some bs excuse for that I'm not sure.)

I expect more calls of racist anti-semite, maybe try to answer the question with more questions or attack the person who said it.

Lets go one step further - and ask the question
"Did Jews have reason to upset with Germany?"

I'd say that most certainly they were being discriminated against and victimised.

But by the same token you must afford Germans the same concession.
So we go back further.

"Did Germany have reason to be upset with Jews?"
Most certainly they did.

After the Germans had virtually won WW1 in 1916, Zionists made a deal with Britain to bring the US into the war.

This cost the German people the war and left them in dire suffering with virtually unpayable reparations.

So the German people did have reason to be angry at the Jews.

** And just remember it was all you pro-Jewish big mouth's.
- That wanted to attack me because I said Israel isn't interested in a 2 state solution and that I'm sick and tired of hearing about it.
You should've accepted my opinion and left it there.

//Please note the headlines.//

Well, there's your problem.

Have you ever thought about ignoring the headlines and reading the articles instead? And maybe reading articles from more than one newspaper? I like to read the SMH and the Daily Telegraph to keep a sense of balance.

I had a look at some of the images you directed me to. Either I need to see an optometrist, or the whole point of those images is for people to focus on the legible headlines and ignore the illegible text.

//There's your provocation.
That right there is Israel going into the bar shooting his mouth off.//

No, it's a bunch of Jews throwing a tantrum and saying 'we won't buy your stuff'. Israel did not exist as a sovereign state at the time, and a bunch of shirty Jews turning their noses up at your business does not justify the Shoah. Nothing could ever justify the Shoah.

//it's alright for Israel to boycott other countries when it feels it's necessary, but when others do it to Israel then it's anti-semitic.//

No, it isn't anti-Semitic to boycott Jewish businesses. I take the view that a boycott is a legitimate and acceptable form of civil disobedience, and I take no issue with the BDS mob: they are expressing their view in a civilised manner.

//After the Germans had virtually won WW1 in 1916, Zionists made a deal with Britain to bring the US into the war.//

Again with the lies. The Seppos entered the war because the Krauts continued to attack passenger and merchant vessels in direct violation of the 'Sussex pledge'. In other words, it was the Krauts themselves who provoked the Seppos into joining the war, a classic own goal.