SOL: Oh come on JayB, how can you say that mindless moron was a average Muslim?

Yes I am. Those that say they're not are Taqiyya.

SOL: Do you know how ALL Muslims think?

We've all got a fair idea according to their Koran. "Kill the infidel where ever you find them." & "it is lawful to lie (Taqiyya) to an infidel." & they all believe it to the n th. degree.

That's like saying you are representative of all Australian men, when you are far from it.....

Are you suggesting that I am one of the bad men? I'm afraid you have me all wrong. I'm really one of the good guys. really. I've got a line up of widows waiting for my wife to die. They've told her. She told them that they've got a long wait ahead. ;-)

Just because I'm not a sucker for a sob story doesn't make me a bad guy.

Dear oh dear.

All we've got to go on is the TV program and the
man's appearance towards the end of the end of the
show.

It's amazing how many assumptions are being made from
that small prism.

The same goes for making judgements about any particular
group. Sweeping statements and generalisations don't allow
for individual differences and lumping everyone together
be they Jew, Christian, or Muslim - is simply nonsense.
They don't all think alike, nor do they practice their
religions in exactly the same way.

Not all Aussies are violent loud alcoholic roughnecks
whose idea of fun is to throw up on your car. The national
sport is not breaking furniture or king-hitting people
on Saturday nights, and the average daily
consumption of beer in Sydney is not ten and three quarters
imperial gallons for children under the age of nine either.

This particular bloke as one poster has already pointed out in this
discussion should not be held accountable for the threats
he issued in his youth - and for which he apparently paid for.
He was found not guilty of terrorism charges and was
acquitted.

The Liberal MP - pushed the buttons deliberately on the show
and got the reaction he was after for his own political
brownie points.

I'm sure that the PM and his team thoroughly approved.
The incident only helps their so often quoted slogans of
"keeping this country safe".

Oh come on JayB, all religions and races have members with extreme views about the contents of their holy books, even Christians!
Of course not all Muslims view their holy book so literally as some do.
You are well known as anti-Muslim on this forum, but I am sure your wife loves you anyway :)

Foxy, as much as I agree that the LIberal pollie in question on the Q&A last Monday did goad the Muslim audience member, I found myself disliking the attitude of that guy. He admitted he had threatened people's lives, but he wasn't bothered by that admission.

I do agree though that we can't cut off an Aussie citizenship without using proper courts and lawyers, otherwise we are giving too much power to politicians like the ones on Q&A. A frightening prospect.

To Susionline.

If a notorious Nazi said on TV that Jews are evil, and they should be isolated from the Australian economy, would you claim that he was an atypical Nazi?

If a notorious Ku Klux Klansman said on TV that all negroes were evolutionarily closer to apes than whites, would you claim that he was an atypical Ku Klux Klansmen.

Any group of people can be judged by their adherence to the core group values which define who and what they are. Zacky Mallah is a Muslim who advocates the values of Islam. To claim that he is not representative of Muslims begs the same question that you put to Jayb. You attacked Jayb by claiming saying that Mallah did pot speak for the average Muslim. Asking you the same question, how do you know that?

How is it that you know what the average Muslim thinks when you sneer at Jayb for making the same assumption that you did? It looks like a double standard to me.

If you know what "average Muslims" think, could I ask you a few questions?

Do "average Muslims" think it is OK to criticise Islam and the Prophet?

Do "average Muslims" reject Sharia Law?

Do "average muslims" believe in the separation of church and state?

Do "average Muslims" believe that apostates to Islam should not be murdered?

Do "average Muslims" think that women who do not follow the dictates of Islam do not deserve to be raped?

Do "average Muslims believe that if a woman is raped, it is not her fault?

Do "average Muslims" denounce the idea that Islam can be spread by force?

Are "moderate Muslims OK with homosexuality?

Please tell me, as a person who claims to know what "average Muslims" think, you must know.

SOL: I do agree though that we can't cut off an Aussie citizenship without using proper courts and lawyers,

& Every Lawyer & Judge in Australia screaming, "YES! Bring it on! Ka Ching!" Singing, "Money, money, money."

Dear Suse,

Zaky Mallah was provoked by the Liberal MP
on Q and A.

Zaky Mallah is a young man, once radicalised, now
reformed, whose central message on radio and elsewhere
has been one of disdain for the "fanatics" of Islamic
State.

As Jonathan Green points out on the ABC - that's a
voice that has a place in our conversation about the
promotion of terror - but not if politics has anything
to do with it.

And the Murdoch media, the PM, and his government will
ensure that this case will remain in the news.
The hysteria and hyperbole is overstated - but it suits
the Abbott-led Coalition to keep at it for political gain.