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Let's not price disabled people out of a job : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 9/6/2015

It is also unknown how many of the people who campaigned for higher wages for the disabled have put their money where their mouth is by employing more disabled people. I strongly suspect the number is zero.

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Clearly you have no concept of anything related to our industrial relations system.
Employers cannot arbitrarily choose what they pay an individual, they must work within the existing systems, be it state or federal awards
Posted by Collin Mullane, Friday, 12 June 2015 12:07:06 AM
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Additionally, I'll clarify that I proposed no sweeping controls, but merely stated that the existing Supported Wage System is effective and already available. It's a much simpler system than BSWAT or other similar tools and is open to use by the majority of employers, not just ADEs.
Posted by Collin Mullane, Friday, 12 June 2015 12:13:50 AM
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Dear Collin,

<<Clearly you have no concept of anything related to our industrial relations system.>>

Speak for yourself please - it's YOUR system, not mine and not many others'.

<<Employers cannot arbitrarily choose what they pay an individual>>

Of course they can! It may not be according to your laws and if your police catches them then they might even be thrown in jail, but that doesn't mean that they cannot, or even that they should not - and if those so-called "employers" have good relationships with their so-called "employees", then you will never catch them!

What allows you anyway to label some people an "employer", others an "employee" and their harmonious relationship "industrial"? Yours is plainly a system of bullying and your pack of legislators are plainly illegitimate gangsters!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 12 June 2015 12:58:23 AM
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In 4 large NSW country centres there are businesses that employ mainly people with disabilities physical and/or mental. These workers love coming to work it gives them meaning, at purpose. Unfortunately or fortunately these workers also receive benefits through Centrelink. The employers pay them less so that they are not penalised by Centrelink.
Reckon that says something about government attitude.
Posted by lamp, Friday, 12 June 2015 11:01:46 AM
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You do not seem to be aware that if a disability pensioner is to work
in a supported job organisation a government certificate to cover that
individual is issued after a Centrelink nominated doctor has examined
them and reports from other relevant organisations, such as schools etc
are submitted.

It is just not up to the employer, not even the special employment co-ops.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 12 June 2015 4:27:11 PM
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Bazz

So we are not only priced out of jobs, but also bureaucratised out of jobs. Bureaucratic procedures are absolute nightmare. Especially for some people with mental problems. Recently I rather borrowed from my friends for new pair of glasses, just to avoid the paperwork the optometrist offered, to get a free pair. You have no idea.
Posted by hermit, Friday, 12 June 2015 5:01:23 PM
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