Jay, you may well be right that Shorten and Plibersek see an opportunity to reduce support for the Government among the electorate, After all, they are the Opposition and I'm sure that at some time they'd like to be sitting on those lovely benches on the other side of the chamber. However, I don't think you've really thought this through.

Let's see if we can't do that together.

C: How large is the homosexual population?
J: Tiny. Poofs all have diseases.

C:How many is that, in percentage terms?
J:Bugger all percent. Poofs don't breed.

C: Righto then, let's say 10%, since most surveys show considerably fewer, and we should try to be conservative, I'm sure you'd agree?
J:Some of them aren't even White!

C:So, assuming that 10% of the population are homosexual, what is the proportion of that homosexual subpopulation who vote for the Conservative side of politics all other things being equal?
J:Huh?

C:That's OK, it was a silly question, let's take a wild stab in the dark (no, not a stab at a darkie, Jay) and say half.
J:As if a poof would vote for Tony Abbott!

C:Well, actually, there are homosexual people in all social strata, although without the costs of raising children, they tend to be better off financially than the population mean, so it's likely that some do.
J: Cheating mongrels, riding on the back of decent people. They shouldn't be allowed to breed!

Hi Jay, Craig here. I wouldn't normally log in using my former ID, but I ran out of posts and I just wanted to let you know that there is another part to our dialog yet to come. It's up to you whether you want to jump in now, but around 8:35 the next part will be posted.

The "Irish Baker" story has been given the typical internet treatment and become something other than what it actually is. The bakery accepted and order then changed their mind because they didn't want to serve a cake to a political organisation which promoted same sex marriage. Remember this wasn't a wedding cake, it was just a regular cake to be decorated with a political slogan which was to be served at a function for a Gay rights group.
Who writes on wedding cakes anyway? This writing on cakes is a relatively new fad, my Mum used to make and decorate wedding cakes as a sideline in the 1980's and she'd just deliver the cake as was, I guess when you're at a wedding reception it's kind of redundant to have the bride and groom's names on the cake eh?

Craig, What's this got to do with homosexuals? The people, be they straight or queer aren't being asked to make a decision, and it's clear that the political parties don't care what their constituents think about same sex marriage. Homosexual activists don't get to vote on the issue either but are happy to cede their authority on the issue to corrupt politicians who turn about face so frequently that their knickers must be quite literally in a knot.

Phanto, there's already a problem with over regulation in society, every time you turn around there's some Indian bloke with a clipboard and high vis vest wagging his finger at you. People are getting sick of being told what they can and can't do, especially since we traditionally lived in a high trust society where you could rely on the majority of people to do the right thing and for people who didn't get their own way to behave like adults and accept that life wasn't always fair but on the whole we had it pretty good. I'm not just talking about White people here either, a small town or tight knit suburban area in Asia has the same level of trust among it's citizens, heck Asians pretty much do whatever they want in their own towns, not so over here, the state treats us like we're children.

C: So, the next question then, is what percentage of those homosexual people would vote Labor just on the issue of marriage equality?
J:All of 'em, poofs are all the same, they just want to destroy society.

C: I'm sure you're right, but let's assume that there are those who actually think about other matters. Being conservative again, let's say half of Conservative-voting homosexuals shift their vote. Now, have you been doing your sums as we go along?
J: Huh?

C: OK then, we can go through it together. We agreed to assume that 10% of people are gay, that half of them would normally vote conservative and that half of those who vote conservative would change their vote just on this one issue. So, what percentage of the vote of the conservatives does that represent?
J:You can't fool me, that's a 5% swing! See, I told you it was all down to those cunning buggers Shorten and Plibersek!The thinking people of Australia see right through their sneaky tricks.

C:I'm sure you're right. So presumably that means there will be a large swing AGAINST Labor by all those deep thinkers for this proposal?
J: Damn right! We won't let them get away with this!

C: Now I'm confused. I guess there's only one way to resolve this.
J: Put 'em in a Camp!

C: Perhaps something a little less drastic. I know, we can vote on it!
J: Yeah right, as if that ever works.

Craig Minns:
Why do you need to use words like ‘poof’ and ‘stab at a darkie’ when you could have just as easily presented your argument without using them? I don’t see any evidence that Jay would be that aggressive so you must be using them for your own satisfaction. Hiding your real intent behind some parody is pretty gutless.

JOM:
The "Irish Baker" story has been given the typical internet treatment and become something other than what it actually is.

Well it may have been given the internet treatment but what it actually is remains unchanged and that is it was a claim brought before the Equality Commission where the claimant was free to say that he had a homosexual orientation and it was accepted without any proof whatsoever. It is our legal system which is undermined when no proof is required.

“there's already a problem with over regulation in society”

If it was accepted that you could neither define sexual orientation nor prove it then you would have to remove anti-discrimination laws against homosexuals since they do not follow legal principles. This would mean even less regulation and it would render the whole same-sex marriage debate pointless.