Arjay, I am all for holistic care, and that principle is drummed into all medical professions during their training.

However, there are certain situations where only 'man-made' medications will help you.
People always have a choice though, and many people, like yourself, adhere to the conspiracy theories that medical professionals and drug companies don't want to help people at all, but are just out to get you.

That's no problem at all really. Luckily no one is forcing anyone to take medications.
I have seen the results of people who thought the same as you...many times.

SOL...labelling dissent as a conspiracy theory is a mark of desperation, as is deliberately misquoting the dissenter. Arjay did not write: " drug companies don't want to help people at all, but are just out to get you." That is your invention to attempt to discredit him. It is abundantly clear that drug companies have become the third most profitable enterprises on the planet by sometimes creating scare campaigns and inventing diseases to sell their concoctions. Arjay did not say it was a conspiracy, he merely pointed out a fact, that modern professional 'health' care is one sided and, as much research shows, too frequently does more harm than good.

suseonline "luckily no one is forced to take medications" Tony Abbott has threatened withdrawal of social security benefits if parents do not immunise their children ,yet he refused to immunise his two daughters with the Gardisil vaccine.

Coercion this way on poor families is forcing people to take medication because they have few options.Also Sodium Fluoride in your drinking water is a form of forced medication. They should be using Calcium Fluoride but the aluminium industry wants a cheap place to dispose of their poison. Sodium Flouride was used in rat's poison and Hitler used it on the Jews. Read the label on your toothpaste and it warns of it's toxic nature. Some countries are now banning fluoride in water supplies as they are now banning Monsanto Round Up.

ybgirp " It is abundantly clear that drug companies have become the third most profitable enterprises on the planet by sometimes creating scare campaigns and inventing diseases to sell their concoctions."

Really?
Where is your proof for this statement?
I am no fan of the tactics of some drug companies but I believe that their 'concoctions' have helped far more people than they have harmed.

Arjay, i am not getting into an argument over immunizations with you.
This thread is about stroke epidemics. People who suffer strokes will be far more disabled if they are not given anti-clotting medication as soon as possible after their stroke.

If you don't want to avail yourself of any of these 'poisons' then be sure and have your Advanced Health Directive up to date and in the hands of your next of kin...so no nasty medical professional can give you any of these 'poisons' to save your life if you are unable to voice your opinion.

It is pretty simple really. Don't use the water provided out of the tap, don't give your kids or yourself any medications, and you will be fine. But leave the rest of us to make our own minds up.

"Arjay, i am not getting into an argument over immunizations with you." A really pathetic retort suseonline. You raised the issue of compulsory medication yet fail to address the reality.

Think of it this way Arjay.
When you want to go on holiday and put your dog in the local kennel for safe keeping, you can't do this without first having had the dog immunized against kennel cough etc.

They want to protect the other dogs at the kennel from non-immunized animals, so you can't put your non-immunized dog in a kennel. You gave to get the dog immunized, or make other arrangements for the dog when you go away.

Simple really.