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The Carbon-Civilization Combustion Complex : Comments
By Evaggelos Vallianatos, published 16/4/2015A recent book, The Collapse of Western Civilization: A View From the Future by Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway shines light on this perplexing question.
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Posted by Max Green, Sunday, 26 April 2015 12:38:08 PM
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Yeah, just drop a penny into his hat. Tink
Posted by Luciferase, Sunday, 26 April 2015 12:57:59 PM
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Well, if it's universally known that you are just a troll, Leo old pal old chum, I'm sorry to have led you on! You might have thought I was the ideal excuse to keep promoting your mad conspiracy theories, but the physics and effects of climate change are self evident to anyone willing to do a little unbaised reading. I'm done. Read the links I've supplied or not. It's up to you how foaming-at-the mouth you let yourself become. I can't help you. I don't have the time to waste on yet another dime-a-dozen internet troll. I'm unsubscribing from this thread. Goodbye.
Posted by Max Green, Sunday, 26 April 2015 2:20:46 PM
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The assertion by Watts is factual, Max. You attack Watts because he has told the truth, which you do not like, because it refutes the fraud which you support.
As to:“. WHY DOES THE ISOTOPE OF THE EXTRA CO2 IN OUR ATMOSPHERE MATCH FOSSIL FUELS, AND NOT NATURAL CO2?” It does not. That is just another of your unsupported statements Roy Spencer looks at the question and illustrates the invalidity ofyour assertion: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/01/28/spencer-pt2-more-co2-peculiarities-the-c13c12-isotope-ratio/ You have produced no science to justify your backing of the AGW fraud, and are reduced to ad hom, because you have nothing else. There is no science which demonstrates any measurable effect of human emissions on climate.You have the temerity to refer to me as a troll, after your disgraceful performance. You are like Poirot, another Naomi Oreskes of OLO. No science to support your assertions, and no honesty. Posted by Leo Lane, Sunday, 26 April 2015 10:29:45 PM
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Dear Leo.
Whether you are right or wrong, the Climate is changing. Quibbling over the cause has the effect of preventing governments from taking steps to cope with the impending crisis, so the effects of severe weather events on civilisation of high tides, flooding and so on will be that much worse. [No bad thing, some might say]. Politicians are not elected for their intelligence and foresight, which is why they are using arguments such as yours to oppose efforts to mitigate future catastrophe. How about using your considerable energy and intelligence on something that matters, such as why we have allied ourselves inextricably with the USA, thus adding to planetary instability by invading every country that doesn't welcome USA hegemony. Posted by ybgirp, Monday, 27 April 2015 8:18:43 AM
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You guys need to live in Brisbane before talking about global warming. I mean, don't we have the biggest hole in the ozone layer here or something? The government and the people are really trying to do something about it, but there's only so many products that you can keep in storage that are going to causethe release of greenhouse gases. What we really need is much better alternatives to the nonsense that we have!
Posted by PaulChau, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 1:32:35 PM
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So he's a genuine tinfoil hat wearing loonie on par with "The Moon Landing was faked!" and "Elvis is alive and well and living in Area 51!" crowd? OK, I'll calm down. There's no point expecting any progress here. I guess I was just concerned about these lunatic assertions confusing other people browsing these forums.