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The Carbon-Civilization Combustion Complex : Comments
By Evaggelos Vallianatos, published 16/4/2015A recent book, The Collapse of Western Civilization: A View From the Future by Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway shines light on this perplexing question.
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Posted by Leo Lane, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 2:11:21 PM
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1. Explain why you think the raw physics of CO2 can just disappear
2. Explain where you think Fourier Devices are wrong in their explanation of the long wavelength heat refraction properties of CO2. 3. Read the IPCC and NASA and HADCRUT data about global temperatures. You've been misinformed. The last few decades have been the hottest on record, and last year was the hottest on record, beating all previous years. 4. Also realise that the oceans soak up an enormous amount of heat that they can then release in devastating El Nino's. 5. You've been lied to. But it sounds like you *wanted* to be lied to. There's a big shock! ;-) Posted by Max Green, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 4:12:10 PM
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Yes, Max, you dodged the question, but I take that to indicate that you have no science to support your backing of the climate fraud.There is no science to demonstrate any measurable human effect on climate.
. Asking stupid questions, instead of answering relevant ones takes you nowhere. The “hottest year” ploy does not work. Hansen has come out with it again this year, and no doubt we will see more lying about temperature, such as the misinformation for which the BOM was nailed, this year. The fraud-backers are desperate for an upward trend in temperature, which is just not there. Remember the Climategate emails, with the fraud-backers lamenting their inability to show warming? Plus more baseless ad hom from you, Max, but, of course, like all fraud-backers, you have nothing else Posted by Leo Lane, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 5:11:56 PM
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"backing of the climate fraud."
climate fraud climate fraud There: when you say it 3 times and click your ruby slippers together, does it make it true? In the meantime, I answered your question (involving Fourier Devices and a previous link to actual VISUAL demonstration of the science of CO2), and if you want to be especially obtuse you can deny the change in seasons, withdrawing glaciers and shrinking ice cap depths and ecosystems moving towards the poles and up mountains and many other things. But since you've shown in your last post that you have absolutely no respect for these things we call satellites and thermometer stations and, heaven forbid, DATA, and just call these things LIES when it suits your worldview, then really, I'm done even pretending to keep up this 'conversation' with you. It will be about as productive as when JW's come and do their thing on my front doorstep. If you're interested in the science, I can link to it. But as you haven't looked up Fourier Devices or CO2 on wikipedia just for starters, and as you seem to quote the Denialist mantra hook,line,and sinker: again, there's no point. Confirming the OP, much? Posted by Max Green, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 5:58:33 PM
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Max,having failed to reference any science to show any measurable human caused effect on climate, you now want to assert that you have answered the question. You are an experienced fraud-backer, asserting that you rely on satellite data, when it is satellite data which shows that global warming has ceased. Perhaps you are you confused, or simply attempting to confuse us?
Max, a reminder of what IPCC lead author Kevin Trenberth emailed to his fellow Climategate miscreants: "… where the heck is global warming? We are asking that here in Boulder where we have broken records the past two days for the coldest days on record. ... The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t" http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_the_warming_conspiracys_most_damning_emails/ It must be terrible for them. All that CO2 in the atmosphere, and no global warming. You must know exactly how they felt, now that it has happened to you. Almost makes you want to relinquish fraud-backing. Posted by Leo Lane, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 6:53:22 PM
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Gezzzz Leo...these storms seem to be getting worse...but of course you have the magic bullet to all planetary systems....to why this is happening.
Its a lot more than Co2 which can turn a stable planet into something we don't understand. Tally Posted by Tally, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 7:27:09 PM
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Are you able to refer us to any science which shows any measurable human caused effect on climate? Of course not!
So you are either ignorant of the science, in which case your support for the fraud is based on ignorance, or you are aware of the absence of science to support the fraud, in which case your support is dishonest.
Please clarify your position for us.
Explain why the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere has been followed by a cessation of global warming, accompanied by a slight cooling, which, like the human effect on climate, is trivial, and not measurable.Try to give us some facts, rather than more of your baseless ad hom.