The amusing irony is that Christian fundamentalists are the biggest consumers of porn. I suspect the staunch anti-porn rhetoric we continuously hear from them is more the result of a guilty conscience.

"Runner, you are the least likely one on this forum to lecture anyone about morals."

Suseonline I have to disagree with that but maybe you meant something different. runner is by far the most likely to be lecture others about morals but possibly has the least credibility of anybody on OLO in regards to what others suspect of his personal morals.

I suspect further comment on my suspicions of what runners mind and morals actually are would breach some of OLO's rules but I've not seen anything in the years of runners postings to suggest some kind of moral compass of any value.

R0bert

Porn's popular because people don't get enough sex. Over to you Kay to help fix this. It was Bettina Arndt's study - The Sex Dairies, that showed most guys wern't getting nearly enough and the best thing woman could do is start having more sex with their partners.

So.. once again... over to you...

Valley Guy

'It was Bettina Arndt's study - The Sex Dairies, that showed most guys wern't getting nearly enough and the best thing woman could do is start having more sex with their partners.'

There's another study done by Men's Health that showed that, while about 90% of men reported they always have an orgasm during sex, only 54% of women reported the same.

So ... men are spectacularly failing women in the sack, but rather than learn a bit about REAL female sexuality and anatomy, it seems men would rather bully, threaten and shame women into giving men more of something that women only have a 54% chance of enjoying.

Let's face it, guys. If you only had a 54% chance of having an orgasm every time you have sex, would you still be complaining that 'you're not getting nearly enough'? I think you'd start losing interest pretty quickly.

So Killarney, does failure to have an orgasm mean that the activity is unsatisfying? And why do you think the male is at fault? I understand you are a woman and will have a more intimate knowledge of the female orgasm than me. Perhaps it is a 100% occurrence for you, and perhaps not. But if it isn't, your experience is not necessarily typical as you are but a single data point. Here is a link to a page on the Society of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in Canada which deals with some of the myths you appear to believe. http://sogc.org/publications/female-orgasms-myths-and-facts/

I hate these things deteriorating into arm wrestles over sexual politics when the answers probably lie elsewhere.

Graham

Your choice of wording says it all. If a woman does not have an orgasm, it's because of a 'failure' on her part.

However, the anatomical facts are straightforward. Women do not have orgasms through intercourse alone. Men do.

We live in a society that dictates sexuality in terms of what gives men pleasure - not women.

Frankly, I have zero tolerance for men who continually complain that women are not giving them enough sex (so that they have to turn to pornography, extra marital affairs, lusting after younger women, using prostitutes etc etc).

If you prefer to scapegoat me as the one doing the 'arm-wrestling' rather than the patronising, intolerant comments by men on this thread that women are 'not putting out' enough, then so be it.