The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Obama admits defeat on renewed negotiations for two-state solution > Comments

Obama admits defeat on renewed negotiations for two-state solution : Comments

By David Singer, published 8/4/2015

Israel cannot possibly be expected in these circumstances to negotiate with the PLO until Islamic State is finally degraded and destroyed.

  1. Pages:
  2. Page 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. All
Always with the excuses David!

Simply put, the truth is, Israel and or the present government has no intention of ever agreeing to a two state solution!?

Which would forever end the new settlements, and the flood of new Jewish migrants!

Which in turn would eventually hand control of Israel's parliament to the Israeli Arabs!

So keep the half baked excuses coming and Israel's ability to do so, thanks to the funding Israel gets from well heeled Jewish donors around the world!

Perhaps if we have a few more enduring commercial boycotts, of Jewish enterprises, and around the world!?

Perhaps the same old endless eternal excuse making and or obstructionist obfuscation, will be replaced by something new and or REAL!

Even so, and when that occurs, those Jews choosing to remain in Israel, will need all the LOCAL Arab goodwill they can muster!

And given what's happening there now today, very much a forlorn hope!

Like so many rationalists before them, even more will vote with their feet, leaving only the hardliners to duke it out with their surrounding Arab cousins?

What will become of the much vaunted natural home of the Jews then? Well?

Somewhere it is written you can catch more flies with a teaspoon of honey, than a whole jar of vinegar!

Trouble is, the only response by the current Jewish administration is to double up on the vinegar, (pretend to give ground and vastly overdo their responses to the rockets) and with it, double up on the surrounding enemies/loss or support; and the zero sum game!

Might well may we ask, what's justice and fairness got to do with it!?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 11:41:14 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Well, I was never a big fan of negotiations: Netanyahu stated correctly that there is no honest Arab partner for these talks - so why have them?

Israel's withdrawal from the West Bank can and will be achieved by other means. I can only hope and pray that when the day finally comes, it will be an orderly and peaceful retreat and not a stampeding defeat.

I also hope that whoever then ends up on the other side, in the West Bank, will be more deserving than the so-called "Palestinians" as they currently behave. How about, for example, settling 3 million Chinese in their place?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 1:03:16 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Dear David

Leaving aside the reality of Israel's total reliance on the US for Israel's day to day existence...

Netanyahu thanks all sayanim, including those in Australia, for their dutiful articles.

Sincerely
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 5:48:04 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
#Rhrosty

You call the rise of Islamic State and the carnage going on in Syria, Yemen,Libya, Iraq and Lebanon - not to mention terrorist activity in Gaza and the West Bank - "excuses" or "half baked excuses".

Hundreds of thousands of dead and injured Arabs and millions of displaced Arabs in the above conflict zones do not make for an environment conducive to negotiations between the PLO and Israel.

You are whistling in the wind mate - as usual.

#Yuyutsu:

There is one honest Arab partner to negotiate with Israel on the sovereignty of the West Bank - and that is Jordan.

Israel and Jordan could allocate the sovereignty of the West Bank between their two respective States in a relatively short period of time.

Getting them together to redraw the existing boundary between their two sovereign states has been the problem - as international hopes have been banking on the creation of another Arab State between Israel and Jordan. That option has all but disappeared with developemnts in the Middle East over the past twelve months - certainly for the next two and a half years at least until Islamic State has been degraded and destroyed in accordance with President Obama's self-declared timetable.

Even the opportunity for negotiations between Israel and Jordan are fast fading in the sunset as Islamic State and its satellites start focusing their attention on Jordan.

Jordan really needs to negotiate with Israel on the future of the West Bank very soon if it wants to have any hope of ever regaining some of the territory it lost in the 1967 Six Day War.

#plantaganet

If you have nothing to say about the content of my article then I take it you agree with everything I have written.

Coming from you that is high praise indeed.

Thanks.
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 12 April 2015 10:35:12 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Dear David,

Jordan is an island of sanity in the middle east.
Jordanians are wonderful and lovely people and I wish them the best, safety and propsperity and a long, happy and healthy life to their beloved majesty King Abduallah.

So I cannot wish them the opposite, which is what they would get if they were stupid enough to re-accept this cursed West Bank which they renounced for good, their nightmare - not their hope. Fortunately, they are not stupid!

As for the Islamic State threatening Jordan, if Israel has any decency left in it, then it should come to help its friend and ally in its time of need - as should Australia.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 12 April 2015 10:54:03 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Dear David

Your article?

As narrow and formulaic as your previous.

You make the complexities of the Middle East simple, minded.

Cheers

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 13 April 2015 11:20:47 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. Page 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy