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Would a widespread right to carry arms make a community safer? : Comments

By Everett Themer, published 12/3/2015

Advocates of Right to Carry laws tout study after study, all claiming to prove that enacting these laws has reduced and prevented crime across the country.

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Suse,
No, I see everything through the lens of race which has nothing to do with people's skin colour, there are American Negroes with pale skin and blue eyes, like Michael Jones one of the Oklahoma "teens" who murdered Australian man Chris Lane:
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/600x4507.jpg

It's when you look past the aesthetic differences and asses the character of different demographic groups and the way individuals within those groups typically behave that racial differences become most apparent.

Cornonacob,
Credibility and acceptance are two different things, Holocaust affirmation is a form of social signalling to let other people know you're a good person and that you're not going to cause trouble or question anything you're told. I'm not interested in being accepted by narrow minded people or those who just swallow every line the media spin because I'm an atheist and I hold no beliefs at all. The war in Eastern Europe from 1941-45 is a fascinating topic and often the verifiable facts about the treatment of Jews and the reasons behind it are more shocking than the fiction written by Elie Wiesel or the Discovery Channel.
Racism I'll wear, I am a racist but racists don't compile crime statistics or conduct prison census', we don't produce any information of our own it all comes from anti-racist sources.
Gun crime in the U.S.A is a racial problem, over 90% of perpetrators and victims come from two minority groups, the areas where those groups live and congregate are the most prone to gun crime and other violence. Socio economic explanations also fall flat because the poorest counties in the U.S.A are in places like South Dakota, the Appalachian region and Alaska yet they record almost no violent crime because they are over 90% White and sparsely populated at that.
Blacks and Mexicans seek their own kind and tend to cluster in larger cities and rural centres, when they congregate they fight, it's a very simple issue to understand.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 13 March 2015 2:17:23 PM
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O sung wu having watched some of these real life cop shows, & seen the fear in which some US cops conduct a traffic stop, with guns drawn, I can understand your worry about concealable guns in the general public. This does appear to happen only in some known dangerous districts.

I doubt our cops dare to stop cars in some districts of Sydney, as their use of guns is not as accepted as it is in the US.

Unlike Pericles emotive claptrap, not all gun owners are "gun-nuts", but of course you can never expect any balance from a lefty-nut can you.

Since I have not bread a foal for a few years, my legal guns have not had to come out to protect my stock from wild dogs for some time, My ammunition is getting so old I'll have to dispose of it, & replace it with new.

What we should all have is the right to defend our homes from any type of trespass or invasion, with what ever force we deem necessary.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 13 March 2015 3:23:21 PM
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What I'd like to see is a well reasoned argument as to why it should remain illegal to carry a stick for self defence against savage dogs.

Was Australia over-run with wild walking stick wielding people to an extent that such a law needed to be passed?
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 13 March 2015 4:38:55 PM
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Hasbeen, you've seen the show COPS right?
http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/cops-slammed-for-portraying-blacks-as-criminals/
John Langley thought he was doing liberals a favor. They were unhappy his long-running reality show, COPS, was showing too many black people getting arrested.

So he reversed it and showed white people getting arrested far out of proportion to the amount of crime they committed. On COPS, blacks are under-represented as the criminal offenders, compared to real numbers in society.

“What irritates me sometimes is critics still watch something and say ‘Oh look, they misrepresent people of color.’ That’s absolutely not true,” said Langley, the show’s producer, in 2009.

To the contrary, “I show more white people than statistically what the truth is in terms of street crime. If you look at the prisons it is 60-something percent people of color and 30 something percent white people. If you look at COPS is it 60 percent white and 40 percent other. It’s just the reverse. And I do that intentionally because I do not want to contribute to negative stereotypes.”
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 14 March 2015 5:53:23 AM
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Personally as an ex-pat American I do not believe than more guns solves anything. I also think the statistics speak volumes if you compare per capita gun deaths between the USA and the rest of the world.

However like Is Mise I do feel people should have the right to self protection, at least in their own homes. The right to defend one's castle should be a basic freedom.

The problem in America is they don't seem to be able to distinguish the 'Right to Bare Arms' from the 'Right to carry a pistol, AK-47, bazooka or a rocket launcher'. Common sense has gone out the window and a mass hysteria has over loosing their Rights has taken over.

I find it sad that everyday on the news we see at least one or two murders have happened over night. Plus the glassings, the king hit one punches on un-expecting innocent people, the number of rapes and muggings that are going on daily is shocking. Australia has slipped far away from being a non-violent society.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Saturday, 14 March 2015 6:27:18 AM
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ConservatveHippie,

"....I also think the statistics speak volumes if you compare per capita gun deaths between the USA and the rest of the world."

They do indeed, the USA is around fourteenth on a world scale and in many crime categories Australia is way up near the top.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 14 March 2015 8:04:25 AM
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