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Would a widespread right to carry arms make a community safer? : Comments

By Everett Themer, published 12/3/2015

Advocates of Right to Carry laws tout study after study, all claiming to prove that enacting these laws has reduced and prevented crime across the country.

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No. How can everyone hsving guns make us safer?? What sort of society is it that makes this necessary?
Posted by Dashton, Thursday, 12 March 2015 8:27:38 AM
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Yeah right.
Hands up those who think America is a safer society than ours?
I think we don't need everyone playing Cowboys and Indians in the street, with idiots feeling superior because they have a steel implement in their hand.
Yee ha...!
Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 12 March 2015 9:35:34 AM
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The right to carry arms was the the heading and that means not just guns; as it is at the moment in Australia no one, that is you ordinary folk, is allowed to carry anything for self protection.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 12 March 2015 9:50:59 AM
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I continue to be amazed at the blindness of so many people. The fundamental cause of almost all problems, including violence, climate change, pollution, illegal immigration etc., is overpopulation, a subject that we are not permitted to discuss. Until we force the third world to reduce its birth rate all these problems are just going to get worse. In the meantime we are in the ludicrous situation that because of gun laws the only people with guns are the criminals, and ordinary law-abiding citizens are forbidden to carry devices for their protection.

The sad fact is that human morality has not improved at all since Auchwitz, and that we live in a brutal violent Hobbesian world. Anyone thinking that this is not the case will have to explain the random beheadings and other terrorist incidents that are becoming an increasing part of our lives in the West.

The solution is simple. The Chinese did it. If a one child policy were to be enforced around the world there may be some hope for the future. Otherwise it is downhill all the way.
Posted by plerdsus, Thursday, 12 March 2015 9:51:56 AM
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Gun crime in the U.S is almost entirely a Black and Hispanic problem, we don't have many Black and Hispanic people in Australia so there can be no comparisons or assumptions made.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/crime_and_enforcement_activity_jan_to_jun_2012.pdf
NYC 2012, 96% of shooting victims and 97% of shooting suspects were Black or Hispanic.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 12 March 2015 10:58:53 AM
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What, as opposed to allowing crims and killers to effectively exercise that right?

One wonders what the outcome in that Sydney Cafe would have been, if both the dead men (officers of the court) had a concealed small weapon about their person; like say a .22 hidden in a fountain pen or some such, and only needing opportunity and resolve, to make the only victim, murderer Man Monis?

And who can say what the outcome in port Arthur would have been if some alert law abiding citizen had known what the appearance of a semiautomatic long arm meant, and acted before it could be used, because he and say half a dozen others actually could!

Or if the attendant hadn't been frozen with fear? And just slung a pot of boiling coffee in that face, the second the weapon was revealed!? And for only one possible purpose!

That said, I would limit that right to carry concealed weapons to people properly vetted and presenting as model citizens, already trained by the armed services and or the police!

The right to bear arms may well be in the Magna Carta and ratified by the later emancipation act; that conferred those same rights to all other citizens. But one suspects it was never ever meant to include criminals or the mentally unwell!

And the latter two examples who seem to be able to acquire their choice of weapons, with the only paperwork involved, the one that requires counting?

It's only crims that get involved in this activity; given law abiding citizens, by definition, can't!

An intelligently and deliberately engineered outcome to be sure? Wouldn't you say?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Thursday, 12 March 2015 12:29:28 PM
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