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Carnival of capital punishment for Bali Nine : Comments

By Duncan Graham, published 3/3/2015

The posters were the giveaway. Professionally produced with near perfect English, some almost works of art, showing Tony Abbott sprouting horns above the caption: ‘Go to hell Abbott with your druggies’.

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Pointless government murder! Proud of yourself AFP?

Im done with indonesia. Vile, backward country filled with corruption and graft. They are happy to pardon the Bali bombers after imprisoning them in luxury, while reformed Aussie drug runners get killed. Pathetic.

Dont expect any help next time you have a natural disaster.
Posted by mikk, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 10:16:12 AM
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Mikk, with respect, that's a silly response. Indonesia is a friend and a good neighbour to Australia that happens to have elected a backward President who seeks to pander to the lowest rather than the highest ideals of his people.

They'll rectify that in due course.
Posted by Craig Minns, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 10:27:32 AM
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Ojnab says "Rhys you obviously think that executing an American citizen is quite alright, go ahead and do it, I was not referring to any Australian in that country on death row but their own people, killing any one by such means is wrong be it in Indonesia or the USA".
I'm not saying it OK for Americans to execute their own citizens. I disagree with the death penalty whoever may be receiving it. I'm simply saying its not our governments job to advocate for American citizens. It is however their job to intervene when Australians are facing execution.
Posted by Rhys Jones, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 10:38:31 AM
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LEGO, its the ridiculous attitudes of people like yourself that have led to the ever increasing potency of street drugs in Australia and around the world. If simply being ever more harsh was an effective strategy then countries like Iran who execute drug dealers and users willy nilly would not have the massive drug problems they have.
People like to get high. Whether that be with alcohol, cannabis, opiates or amphetamines. The rise of the synthetic cannibinoids is purely due to the prohibition of Cannabis. Likewise the rise of Meth is due to the illegality of cocaine and regular amphetamine. If properly regulated these drugs would be lot safer and cause a lot less harm in society. Likewise if opium was available for smoking in opium dens, why would a junkie be poking a needle into their arm in some public toilet. It never fails to amaze me how people like yourself wish to intervene in what others choose to put into their body. Particularly when that intervention leads to worse and worse consequences including massive property crime, ever more potent and dangerous drugs available, spread of blood borne infections, massive wealth for criminal organisations, corruption amongst the police, massive spending on prisons and punishing our children with criminal records that have a far more detrimental effect on their future than the drugs they are taking. But despite all these harms you are calling for more of the same. Apparently the problem lies in not executing enough people. A wonderful world you want to live in.
Posted by Rhys Jones, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 10:49:55 AM
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"Mikk, with respect, that's a silly response. Indonesia is a friend and a good neighbour to Australia that happens to have elected a backward President who seeks to pander to the lowest rather than the highest ideals of his people.

They'll rectify that in due course."

When(if) they do I will reassess my view of indonesia.

They voted in a bloke called bang bang for gods sake. Let alone the joke-o they voted in this time.
"Friends and good neighbors" dont pointlessly and vindictively murder rehabilitated Aussie citizens.

This is a display of the contempt and hatred that indonesians and their government have for Australia.
Posted by mikk, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 11:11:53 AM
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Rhys Jones, it is the ridiculous attitudes of people like yourself who are responsible for the ever growing impact of drugs on the Australian community. The only way to tell if the death penalty will prevent the continued growth of drug crimes in Australia, would be to introduce a ten year trial period where we hanged every methamphetamine importer or manufacturer, and hanged every importer and trafficker of addictive drugs. It would have a major impact and you know it. The primary reason why the educated elites feel so sorry for drug traffickers like Chan and Sukamaran, is because they one of the demographic groups that are the customers for their illegal products. Even former NSW Premier Neville Wran's daughter is a meth addict who is now on remand for murder.

Your claim that all we have to do is legalise drugs and hey presto, the problem is solved, has just one little problem. If it was that easy, why has no advanced society ever contemplated it? The answer is, because there are enough people around who know it is sheer lunacy. Only a Green Party supporter would be stupid enough to even think that way. Betcha you vote Green?

One reason why we have a problem with drugs is because too many movies, magazines, and TV shows aimed at young people present drug abuse as the fashionable thing to do. There was even one execrable TV series which presented the life of a methamphetamine cook as some sort of comedy where the "hero" drug cooker enjoyed an exciting and amusing life. So many pop stars have died of drug overdoses that you can't really be considered a legend in rock unless you have OD'ed

The Indonesians have done exactly the right thing. Call it "tough love" if you want, but what Indonesia has done is to set a clear moral boundary and widely publicised what will happen to you if you fail to heed their clear warning. The executions of drug pushers in Indonesia will display to even a Green supporter, the principle of Cause to Consequence.
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 3:54:09 PM
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