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I am Joko 'Jokowi' Widodo : Comments

By Jonathan J. Ariel, published 19/1/2015

Soon, maybe in a few weeks, maybe longer, the Republic of Indonesia will execute two Australian heroin traffickers, Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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Had their drug run been successful then they would have enjoyed the profits, it wasn't a success.

Tough.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 19 January 2015 12:29:38 PM
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o sung wu

I too oppose the death penalty, and am glad to see our PM and Foreign Minister doing what’s appropriate in the circumstances – stating Australia’s in-principle opposition to the death penalty and arguing for whatever mitigation may be possible for Australian citizens within the framework of whatever foreign legal system they may be caught up in.

I disliked the vindictive and gloating tone of this article. Chan and Sukamaran surely knew the risks, and are hardly innocent. They were incredibly stupid. According to the Mercy Campaign, they have reformed in prison. Whatever the outcome, it will result in two wasted lives.

Incidentally, the article is incorrect to say the USA executes people for drug trafficking. Only aggravated murder is subject to the death penalty.
Posted by Rhian, Monday, 19 January 2015 2:16:51 PM
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Rian: am glad to see our PM and Foreign Minister doing what’s appropriate in the circumstances – stating Australia’s in-principle opposition to the death penalty and arguing for whatever mitigation may be possible for Australian citizens.

Mouthing words to appear to appease the PC & Latte Set. While not really caring. I'm with him except I tell it like it is. I just don't know they have wasted so much time. They should heave been shot years ago.

Quite correct Is Mise.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 19 January 2015 2:30:01 PM
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Rhian

Sorry but you are incorrect.
Under 21 U.S.C. §841(b) (1988)) when trafficking heroin in the quantum of 100-999 grams, the penalty is between 5 and 40 years in gaol, however it rises to anywhere from 20 years imprisonment to the death penalty if the case is related to serious injury or death.

I also draw your attention to (21 U.S.C. 848 (c)(1)
Posted by Jonathan J. Ariel, Monday, 19 January 2015 3:18:54 PM
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Craig I think your analogy is incorrect.
You hold that the matter falls into the realm of game theory
(of which I am aware) and behavioural economics.

I disagree.

For me the better analogy of Chan and Sukumaran is gambling.
The drug smugglers as it were played roulette.
They as it were, bet their houses, savings and then some on the delusion that their lucky number “37” will magically come up
on the wheel and voila, there’s their PAYDAY.

Breaking news: but even roulette wheels in Indonesia don’t have a “37”.
Posted by Jonathan J. Ariel, Monday, 19 January 2015 3:33:33 PM
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Corby should also be tied to a tree and have to look at a few rifles pointing her way, think of the millions she will make when she is released back in Australia, she already would be quite wealthy thanks to the media and Woman's Day, likewise think of the millions these two drug dealers will receive if released from the media, just be a drug runner, get caught, get off, and name your price and live happily ever after, that folks is the way it works, crime pays.
Posted by Ojnab, Monday, 19 January 2015 4:01:07 PM
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