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It is Islam, not 'Islamism' : Comments

By Babette Francis, published 12/1/2015

Politicians and some Church leaders have mouthed platitudes about Islam being a religion of peace and portraying those who murder in its name as betraying the ideals of Islam.

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That may be one of the all-time classics...
Posted by Craig Minns, Saturday, 24 January 2015 7:24:39 AM
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http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/woman-beheaded-in-broad-daylight-in-moderate-muslim-nation-while-police-watch/
Posted by Constance, Saturday, 24 January 2015 10:58:32 AM
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Constance,
You are wasting you time listing that:
-- Steelie only believes what he sees on HAMAS TV
--Foxy only believes what's on New Matilda.
--Poirot only picks-up on what her lefty circle of twits tweet.
--And Craig only believes what he sees on the Disney channel
Posted by SPQR, Saturday, 24 January 2015 11:27:19 AM
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Constance,

Which begs the question - why are the Saudis the bestest friends of the West?

Are you going to critique the hypocrisy of the US, Oz, European nations and all the rest of them for lauding and dealing with the Saudis when the "Saudi regime" is all that we (apparently) stand against in the "West".

And Abbott seemed particularly taken with his fellow climate denier, Crown Prince Salman bin Abdulaziz, during the G20...(there's an engaging pic with the following article)

http://www.afr.com/p/national/eu_says_australia_alone_with_saudis_5kLYFtEB3WP5MjyUZnXvLI
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 24 January 2015 11:43:40 AM
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Dear SPQR,

Is that the best you can dyou can come up
with.

Oh dear!
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 24 January 2015 12:15:41 PM
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Dear Constance,

You wrote;

“You don't understand irony, do you?”

Hmmm.

Okay, I think what Leonard is referring to is that both Stalin and Paul have taken foundation ideas (those of Marx and Jesus respectively) and subverted and perverted them to extend their own totalitarian control over the freedoms and thoughts of others. George Bernard Shaw calls Paul “a monstrous imposition” on Christianity.

Could I invite you to give your perspective, specifically where you think the irony is displayed here by Cohen.

Now can I invite you to de-construct with me your latest offering;
http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/woman-beheaded-in-broad-daylight-in-moderate-muslim-nation-while-police-watch/

Why on earth would anyone put forward the proposition that Saudi Arabia is a “moderate Muslim nation”?

Woman can not drive cars in that country, require their male guardian's permission to travel, have surgery, to open bank accounts, to marry, even to go to school. Their practice of capital punishment via beheading or stoning is barbaric as is the removal of hands and feet, lashing, and insanely draconian sentencing.

Expanding on Poirot's point I have railed on this forum many times about the West's continuing support for the nation of Saudi Arabia but I understand it is the United States longest and strongest ally in the Middle East. I would have hoped the huge resources that have flowed from that country into the promotion of one of the most extreme forms of radical Islam, Wahhabism, might have caused a backlash but it didn't happen, even after 9/11.

What Saudi Arabia most certainly isn't is moderate and for you to post a link to an article claiming otherwise is misleading and untruthful.

If Australia was fair dinkum about combating terrorism then it would have been placing sanctions on that nation years ago, but we have wimped it. Personally I would have liked us deny the Saudi Arabian team visas to enter this country to play in the current Asian Cup. Barring that I would have loved to see protesters at the soccer games highlighting that country's funding of global terrorism.

Cont...
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 24 January 2015 1:16:51 PM
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